Proposed UKIP policy - Reintroduce Duelling

douglas denny · 04-07-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Going east from the Still there is the old Customs House and then the weatherboarded store attached to it. Then Quebec House - once a sea bath. All that is on the south side of the street.

V unlikely to have been fought there. In 1845 it would have been very busy indeed.

My mother's family come from that very area,

Alicia has just come in. She says Quebec House. Duel in 17** something. Probably a different duel; or my guide had it all wrong.

Not so busy at dawn. Good spectator sport anyway. Spectators unlikely to want to get in the way ..... !!

DED.
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Mikeuk · 05-07-2008, 07:39 AM

Well there may have been another duel there, but in those days Point was not a respectable area for gentlemen.

No police or other authorities to stop the fun, but plenty of washerwomen, mudlarks, fishermen to watch and hurl abuse.

I will have to check with my copy of Gates's History of Portsmouth

Mikeuk · 09-07-2008, 06:36 AM

To sum up, it seems to me that a UKIP government should allow gentlemen to settle affairs of honour in the old, effective way without police interference.

In days gone by participation in duels was restricted by social class and rank. In the spirit of democracy I advocate that all such restrictions should be removed and that females should also be permitted to take part.

gawain · 09-07-2008, 10:41 AM

I was once involved in a duel with foils, first to draw blood.

It was on the account of somebody's buffoonary - not my own I hasten to add. Sadly I was forced to withdraw my statement when it became apparent the the other chap's second would himself call me out - and he both absolutely serious and was a far better fencer.

His reasoning was that I was taking advantage of the glowering rage of a erstwhile friend, and thus was myself beng dishonourable.

He also infornmed the local constabulary of the time and place of the meeting. That being said being arrested for duelling would have made an interesting addendum to my CRB check.

chikrodah · 09-07-2008, 05:25 PM

Gawain, maybe you and Aardvark could put on a demonstration match as a UKIP fundraiser?

mrabody · 09-07-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chikrodah

Gawain, maybe you and Aardvark could put on a demonstration match as a UKIP fundraiser?

But Aardvark and Gawain are so gentlemanly and polite, a duel between them would be a rather temperate affair. Perhaps they could appear as the warmup act to the main attraction - a duel between Bob FM and Geoffrey Collier!

Ukipmember1 · 09-07-2008, 10:09 PM

A ridiculous idea, goes against everything man has strived for in regards to respect for one another and equality. This is the 21st Century people

HM · 09-07-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ukipmember1

A ridiculous idea, goes against everything man has strived for in regards to respect for one another and equality. This is the 21st Century people

21st century and Mikeuk don't go too well together. That's something you'll learn on this forum.

Ukipmember1 · 09-07-2008, 10:14 PM

ha ha, many thanks for the heads up HM!!

Aardvark · 09-07-2008, 10:17 PM

Ukipmember1, Irony is wasted on you. This whole thread is tongue in cheek, I think. Anyway, how would gentlemen solve disputes in the twenty-first century? Conkers is a H&S risk. Hopscotch is racist. Knives are about to be banned. Handguns are illegal. The courts are expensive and anyway gentlemen don't really go there unless the other person is a complete cad (I am a gentleman and would only sue complete cads).

09-07-2008, 06:36 AM	#23 (permalink)
Mikeuk Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fareham Posts: 5,512	To sum up, it seems to me that a UKIP government should allow gentlemen to settle affairs of honour in the old, effective way without police interference. In days gone by participation in duels was restricted by social class and rank. In the spirit of democracy I advocate that all such restrictions should be removed and that females should also be permitted to take part. __________________ 'We will not build a peaceful world by following a negative path. It is not enough to say "We must not wage war." It is necessary to love peace and sacrifice for it. We must concentrate not merely on the negative expulsion of war, but on the positive affirmation of peace.' Martin Luther King Jr 1964

09-07-2008, 10:17 PM	#30 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,556	Ukipmember1, Irony is wasted on you. This whole thread is tongue in cheek, I think. Anyway, how would gentlemen solve disputes in the twenty-first century? Conkers is a H&S risk. Hopscotch is racist. Knives are about to be banned. Handguns are illegal. The courts are expensive and anyway gentlemen don't really go there unless the other person is a complete cad (I am a gentleman and would only sue complete cads). __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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05-07-2008, 07:39 AM	#22 (permalink)
Mikeuk Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fareham Posts: 5,512	Well there may have been another duel there, but in those days Point was not a respectable area for gentlemen. No police or other authorities to stop the fun, but plenty of washerwomen, mudlarks, fishermen to watch and hurl abuse. I will have to check with my copy of Gates's History of Portsmouth

09-07-2008, 10:41 AM	#24 (permalink)
gawain Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 264	I was once involved in a duel with foils, first to draw blood. It was on the account of somebody's buffoonary - not my own I hasten to add. Sadly I was forced to withdraw my statement when it became apparent the the other chap's second would himself call me out - and he both absolutely serious and was a far better fencer. His reasoning was that I was taking advantage of the glowering rage of a erstwhile friend, and thus was myself beng dishonourable. He also infornmed the local constabulary of the time and place of the meeting. That being said being arrested for duelling would have made an interesting addendum to my CRB check.

09-07-2008, 05:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,406	Gawain, maybe you and Aardvark could put on a demonstration match as a UKIP fundraiser?

09-07-2008, 10:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ukipmember1 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 18	A ridiculous idea, goes against everything man has strived for in regards to respect for one another and equality. This is the 21st Century people

09-07-2008, 10:14 PM	#29 (permalink)
Ukipmember1 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 18	ha ha, many thanks for the heads up HM!!