EExclusive thread for those who support UKIP.

[Bob FM]

Me, please note that those who support the party may contribute those who have reservations need not post.

[Populist Lee]

There's a Social Groups Section for this type of thread.

[C_steam]

Bob FM - If you want to form a group, do so and follow the advice above. But please do not try to set up your own rules within the open forum area.

[Anthony Butcher]

What we need is some positive UKIP stuff to talk about. The last three weeks have seen just 7 news items on the UKIP website, with just one in the last six days; where are all the good news items, articles, motivational discussions, current affairs commentary and policy chat?

Surely there must actually be something going on somewhere worth talking about, rather than the constant attacks?

Ideas:
Dissect the recent UKIP policy statements
Do a write up on your favourite MEP candidates

[a swansong 4 europe]

Yes, UKIP needs some good news, but from where and when? I recall Britanist's obsessions with opinion polls in the months leading up to the London Mayoral elections:

"UKIP will get publicity and its profile will rise through leaflets and media coverage when the campaign for this year's London Mayoral vote formally starts in a few weeks' time. Consequently its 3% projected vote share in the capital (a forecast vote specific to the Mayoral election) should rise." (03.03.2008 - This forum)


The considerable publicity around the Irish vote should have been HEAVILY exploited by UKIP, with billboards, public meetings and a mass leafleting campaign across the country. It did not happen. UKIP has never been a very good or effective fighting party and has rather lazily relied on the EU elections to justify its existence and fill the financial troughs of its leaders.

I realised years ago that UKIP was UNREFORMABLE because only those close to the heart of the Farage beast would have any influence. I wouldn't have minded if there was actually good reasons to have tolerated this, but electorally, UKIP have been a dead duck and an embarrassing farce for the last 4 years. NOTHING has been achieved from the days of 2004 and the party, which should have progressed in leaps and bounds seems to have been deliberately left to flounder and decay on the sands of time.

What an utter waste of activists time and money.

Politics in this country is an ass because the asses seem to be the voting public at large.

There seems little hope for the future.

[T.N.Warry]

Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

What we need is some positive UKIP stuff to talk about. The last three weeks have seen just 7 news items on the UKIP website, with just one in the last six days; where are all the good news items, articles, motivational discussions, current affairs commentary and policy chat?

Surely there must actually be something going on somewhere worth talking about, rather than the constant attacks?

Ideas:
Dissect the recent UKIP policy statements
Do a write up on your favourite MEP candidates

Anthony you are literally unbelieveable!!!

This is how I understand your position.

You resigned from the NEC on principle because of what you saw around you and because you saw first hand that the NEC was in Nigel's pocket and that the hierarchy of UKIP was corrupted and beyind reform.

If tis true how can you say ' that surely there must be something good going on in UKIP'

Listen to me Anthony - As far as UKIPs hierarchy is concerned - NO THERE ISN'T.

[Bob FM]

So T.N speaks for the UKIP hierarchy, who are ?. Oh I forgot it's all a secret.

[Geoffrey Collier]

BobFM: If you think that UKIP's problems are merely organisational, and a few changes in adminstrational precedures will suffice, you do not understand anything. People of quality have been elected to the NEC on many occasions, but have left due to the appalling standards of some fellow members. Why do you show such little sympathy and understanding of their problems? We have certain people who are unfit for public office, but you are happy to be their permanent cheer-leader.

[Bob FM]

As a senior police officer once said to me at a conference he was a guest speaker, 'it is vital that one strives to reach the top in order to change the things you condemn, if you are not prepared for that goal, then you have no right to complain.' That was John Alderson one of the most progressive Chief Constables this country has ever seen. His force Devon and Cornwall adopted his vision of a police service working for and with the community. He made enemies along the way some from within his own force but he stuck to his guns and the counties were at their most harmonious. If those who were on the NEC had had any courage they would have fought from within, if there was indeed something to fight against.

[T.N.Warry]

Originally Posted by Bob FM

As a senior police officer once said to me at a conference he was a guest speaker, 'it is vital that one strives to reach the top in order to change the things you condemn, if you are not prepared for that goal, then you have no right to complain.' That was John Alderson one of the most progressive Chief Constables this country has ever seen. His force Devon and Cornwall adopted his vision of a police service working for and with the community. He made enemies along the way some from within his own force but he stuck to his guns and the counties were at their most harmonious. If those who were on the NEC had had any courage they would have fought from within, if there was indeed something to fight against.

To an extent I agree.