Mr Titford & Mr Allison: Fools & EU money (Mod: Alleged)

Peterc · 03-07-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Peterc

I assume that PeterC is Peter Cole? Thanks for your statement. However, I still think Tom Wise is involved but I could be wrong. I was told that he would take others with him if found guilty.

You are quite right Hulkman, I have nothing to hide and certainly would not hide behind a pseudonym

Bob FM · 03-07-2008, 10:08 AM

Peter ask yourself a question, who gains by this muddy water.? I have no knowledge of who is responsible and I maintain my stance that I do not judge without 'evidence'. I made this clear to Tom when he phoned me. I have also been phoned by others, seeking to impart their versions and I have said the same thing, provide the evidence, whether in 'defence' or in 'prosecution' and I will make up my own mind. Something that others clearly have no desire to do.

Aardvark · 03-07-2008, 10:12 AM

Pretty impressive. We are supposed to deduce from 4 posts that Peterc is indeed Peter Cole and not any other Peter whose surname begins with C. That makes you less anonymous as there are only a few thousand to choose from.

You could of course be pretending to be Peter Cole as others pretend to be Ted Bovis, Wolfie Smith or Charlie Endell.

To be honest my name isn't Aardvark although I now get called that to my face on occasion! I wonder if anybody can guess who I am.

Peterc · 03-07-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob FM

Peter ask yourself a question, who gains by this muddy water.? I have no knowledge of who is responsible and I maintain my stance that I do not judge without 'evidence'. I made this clear to Tom when he phoned me. I have also been phoned by others, seeking to impart their versions and I have said the same thing, provide the evidence, whether in 'defence' or in 'prosecution' and I will make up my own mind. Something that others clearly have no desire to do.

I do not have to ask myself the question Bob, it is what i have been saying to many others!

Geoffrey Collier · 03-07-2008, 10:34 AM

BobFM: There are people who make claims without any supporting evidence, and you serve as an excellent example. You were, or were not, invited to motor along the M4. to sight evidence about a matter which had been the subject of your previous postings. While willing to vilify, you still haven't confirmed or denied if such an invitation was offered to you.

Despite being as socially colour-blind as anyone could be - I even thought Delroy Young was Scandinavian - that did not prevent you from suggesting that I join the BNP. What evidence would you proffer to support your opinion that I would be sympathetic to their opinions? Not a shred exists, but you thought as nice smear against me would be in order. At least Farage dined with Nick Griffin, and had a former N.F. regional organiser as his election agent in the last G.E. What similar criticisms could you levy at me?

Many of the UKIP leadership genuinely do suffer from moral dyslexia; right and wrong are shapes not readily recognisable to them. What other explanation would you give for their
actions?

Geoffrey Collier · 03-07-2008, 10:39 AM

Aardvark: I couldn't imagine who you could be. At least no one has ever pretended to be me, but I wonder if suspicious mrabody, thinks BobFM and me are the same person?

Peterc · 03-07-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

Pretty impressive. We are supposed to deduce from 4 posts that Peterc is indeed Peter Cole and not any other Peter whose surname begins with C. That makes you less anonymous as there are only a few thousand to choose from.

You could of course be pretending to be Peter Cole as others pretend to be Ted Bovis, Wolfie Smith or Charlie Endell.

To be honest my name isn't Aardvark although I now get called that to my face on occasion! I wonder if anybody can guess who I am.

Aardvark, do you ever believe anything? ring me if you are in any doubt as to who I am!

Bob FM · 03-07-2008, 10:52 AM

GC you really do seem to have a comprehension, or inability to read problem. I have acknowledged on at least 3 separate threads where you have asked the same question about GLW, that he did make that suggestion, I have also explained why I declined. You make it very clear by these type of posts that you have only one motivation and that is the destruction of the party. At least have the honesty and decency to admit it, then we can all ignore you and perhaps you will go away.

Bob FM · 03-07-2008, 10:54 AM

Peter perhaps you could answer this question. Has Tome Wise been charged with any criminal offence, in relation to the current investigation.?

Aardvark · 03-07-2008, 11:00 AM

Peter, I don't doubt who you are, but it is not logical that I should deduce the name of someone I'd only heard of in passing from your moniker. gc is I believe Gary Cartwright, you could be Peter Cartwright or he could be Gary Cole. I don't know every UKIP member or their role within the party structure, thank God.

I am privileged to be a moderator and to see people's IPs. There are plenty of posters here who have more than one name and post under several aliases. Why should I believe you are Peter Cole, but not be suspicious of a whole load of people with names from 70s TV series? There might be more than one Peter Cole as indeed, if you go round other fora, there are more Aardvarks who are not me. There are in fact more Paul Wessons who are not me and very clever and talented they all turned out to be. One of us is heading for a Nobel Prize in physics and I hope to be confused for him when the cheque is sent out.

What's in a name?

03-07-2008, 10:12 AM	#43 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 4,255	Pretty impressive. We are supposed to deduce from 4 posts that Peterc is indeed Peter Cole and not any other Peter whose surname begins with C. That makes you less anonymous as there are only a few thousand to choose from. You could of course be pretending to be Peter Cole as others pretend to be Ted Bovis, Wolfie Smith or Charlie Endell. To be honest my name isn't Aardvark although I now get called that to my face on occasion! I wonder if anybody can guess who I am. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

03-07-2008, 11:00 AM	#50 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 4,255	Peter, I don't doubt who you are, but it is not logical that I should deduce the name of someone I'd only heard of in passing from your moniker. gc is I believe Gary Cartwright, you could be Peter Cartwright or he could be Gary Cole. I don't know every UKIP member or their role within the party structure, thank God. I am privileged to be a moderator and to see people's IPs. There are plenty of posters here who have more than one name and post under several aliases. Why should I believe you are Peter Cole, but not be suspicious of a whole load of people with names from 70s TV series? There might be more than one Peter Cole as indeed, if you go round other fora, there are more Aardvarks who are not me. There are in fact more Paul Wessons who are not me and very clever and talented they all turned out to be. One of us is heading for a Nobel Prize in physics and I hope to be confused for him when the cheque is sent out. What's in a name? __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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03-07-2008, 10:08 AM	#42 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,148	Peter ask yourself a question, who gains by this muddy water.? I have no knowledge of who is responsible and I maintain my stance that I do not judge without 'evidence'. I made this clear to Tom when he phoned me. I have also been phoned by others, seeking to impart their versions and I have said the same thing, provide the evidence, whether in 'defence' or in 'prosecution' and I will make up my own mind. Something that others clearly have no desire to do.

03-07-2008, 10:34 AM	#45 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,323	BobFM: There are people who make claims without any supporting evidence, and you serve as an excellent example. You were, or were not, invited to motor along the M4. to sight evidence about a matter which had been the subject of your previous postings. While willing to vilify, you still haven't confirmed or denied if such an invitation was offered to you. Despite being as socially colour-blind as anyone could be - I even thought Delroy Young was Scandinavian - that did not prevent you from suggesting that I join the BNP. What evidence would you proffer to support your opinion that I would be sympathetic to their opinions? Not a shred exists, but you thought as nice smear against me would be in order. At least Farage dined with Nick Griffin, and had a former N.F. regional organiser as his election agent in the last G.E. What similar criticisms could you levy at me? Many of the UKIP leadership genuinely do suffer from moral dyslexia; right and wrong are shapes not readily recognisable to them. What other explanation would you give for their actions?

03-07-2008, 10:39 AM	#46 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,323	Aardvark: I couldn't imagine who you could be. At least no one has ever pretended to be me, but I wonder if suspicious mrabody, thinks BobFM and me are the same person?

03-07-2008, 10:52 AM	#48 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,148	GC you really do seem to have a comprehension, or inability to read problem. I have acknowledged on at least 3 separate threads where you have asked the same question about GLW, that he did make that suggestion, I have also explained why I declined. You make it very clear by these type of posts that you have only one motivation and that is the destruction of the party. At least have the honesty and decency to admit it, then we can all ignore you and perhaps you will go away.

03-07-2008, 10:54 AM	#49 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,148	Peter perhaps you could answer this question. Has Tome Wise been charged with any criminal offence, in relation to the current investigation.?