Mr Titford & Mr Allison: Fools & EU money (Mod: Alleged)

Bob FM · 06-07-2008, 08:20 PM

i repeat there has just been one token arrest, no one has been charged, there are no pending court dates etc,etc,etc. Therefore the posting of the 'evidence', is neither illgeal (except as civil libel) or subject to court proceedings. How do you think the tabloids (notW) get away with publishing the story (as in Wise) and then pass their 'evidence' to the police afterwards. There is no reason not to publish other than if not rue it is libel, perhaps that is the real cowardness behind all this. Denigrate and demean someone from in this fashion is the act of the most low of humans.

charlie endell · 06-07-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob FM

There is no reason not to publish other than if not rue it is libel, perhaps that is the real cowardness behind all this. Denigrate and demean someone from in this fashion is the act of the most low of humans.

I could not work out where you are coming from, Bob, but I think I've got it. You are trying to launch your own language.

Geoffrey Collier · 06-07-2008, 09:28 PM

BOb FM: You are talking about matters about which you know little. On this forum only two or three days ago, an individual who will remain anonymous, make very serious allegations - the posting was quickly removed- but, I understand, legal proceedings could be pending. You are not a fit person to give advice.

Talking to a Spaniard about politics, must be as incongrous as talking to a eunuch about sex. From neither, for want of experience, could sound universal principles be formulated.
Why not become interested in darts, or something as equally exciting. What have the poor Swindonians done to deserve you!

Niall Warry · 06-07-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob FM

DD by the sounds of it I'd rather not. Talking of Rants it seems GLW has got a new play thing, he's now giving his expert opinion to a Kidney Cancer site. I wish them luck.

This just proves how low you can go BobFM appearing to link 'ranting' to GLW's Kidney Cancer site. GLW is recovering from kidney cancer and on his own initiative has been the main instigator in setting up this site and also spends considerable time talking to other kidney cancer sufferers offering advice and support.

I don't expect you are a big enough man to apologise for your entry above.

Aardvark · 07-07-2008, 12:02 AM

Niall I'm with you. GLW has only one kidney as a result of the cancer he has suffered. Sadly he is not 'recovering', he is marking time. He has offered to provide links and support for a friend of mine who is dying of prostate cancer. My wife died of ovarian cancer. Bob FM, you are a very low person attacking people who are trying to support others who are in desperate need.

chikrodah · 07-07-2008, 12:14 AM

Bob FM.

One of the first laws of survival in a political battlefield is "Know your enemy". You regard GLW as your enemy. You should have done your research before launching into a petty bitchfest about him.

GLW is not my favourite eurosceptic; I respect his passion but not the way he presents that passion.

Having said that, the man has survived cancer this long through sheer willpower. He has invested some of his passion and resources into helping educate and support others affected by the same disease. He does that knowing he is living on borrowed time.

Don't belittle others, ever. It does not show maturity or the personal qualities required in a MP manqué.

chikrodah · 07-07-2008, 12:20 AM

Geoffrey, don't disparage the noble art of darts.

For centuries, all freemen had to practice at the butts on a Sunday, to maintain their archery skills. Darts is simply the "indoors if wet" alternative.

Granted, the finesse is nothing like that required by a decent jouster, but the hand-to-eye co-ordination required by a competent indoor archer is still considerable.

Bob FM · 07-07-2008, 07:19 AM

GC another racist comment: Talking to a Spaniard about politics, must be as incongrous as talking to a eunuch about sex. From neither, for want of experience, could sound universal principles be formulated. As it happens I was aware that GLW had suffered some form of ill health as he spends the first 5 minutes of one of his video's talking about how inefficient the health service is and how they made him ill etc etc. Never assume that others do not have similar issues. He may well be trying to help others but like so many things with this man it is an obsession. You have only got to look at the site to see that. He takes it upon himself to publish other people cases. I wonder does he ever ask. Perhaps these people would prefer anonymity. I had no desire to receive the email he sent and I would suspect the vast majority on his mailing list would feel the same. His obsession is about himself. I sympathy for his ill health, but not for the man himself. He has made my life a misery over the last couple of months. And for the record and as a warning to others my PC has been infected with AntiVirus 2008 off the back of one of his emails. I have apparently removed it but it keeps popping up.

Geoffrey Collier · 07-07-2008, 11:56 AM

BobFM: Wouldn't it have nice for you to have said, 'yes, GLW and I seem to agree on little, but creating the largest private and free website for cancer sufferers is most laudable'. In this life, wherever possible, you should be, 'hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise', How on earth can those who disagree, one with another, about so many things, ever hope to peacefully co-exist? What is very conspicuous about your postings, is a total absence of generosity for anyone with whom you disagree.

Take for example Chikrodah and me; we disagree strongly about the importance of colour in Tahitian art, but we don't dwell on that strong disagreement; we compensate by dwelling on those things which unite us: jousting, darts, and the demand for fork-truck drivers in the comtemporary industrial scene. Is there not lesson there for you BoBFM!

As for that 'racist comment'. Do you not realise that a Fleet St. journalist, would give a right-arm to craft an analogy like that. When I say to the waiter in the Little Holland restaurant, you are 'talking double- Dutch, boy', they don't become offended. You win the European Cup, and Wimbledon in the same week, but you continue to complain. Never mind, time will sort it all out one presumes.

Aardvark · 07-07-2008, 12:12 PM

..but when Blackadder said, 'the front was as likely to move as a Frenchman living next door to a brothel'. that was humour.

Don't Spaniards do humour?

07-07-2008, 12:02 AM	#95 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 4,255	Niall I'm with you. GLW has only one kidney as a result of the cancer he has suffered. Sadly he is not 'recovering', he is marking time. He has offered to provide links and support for a friend of mine who is dying of prostate cancer. My wife died of ovarian cancer. Bob FM, you are a very low person attacking people who are trying to support others who are in desperate need. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

07-07-2008, 12:12 PM	#100 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 4,255	..but when Blackadder said, 'the front was as likely to move as a Frenchman living next door to a brothel'. that was humour. Don't Spaniards do humour? __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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06-07-2008, 08:20 PM	#91 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,148	i repeat there has just been one token arrest, no one has been charged, there are no pending court dates etc,etc,etc. Therefore the posting of the 'evidence', is neither illgeal (except as civil libel) or subject to court proceedings. How do you think the tabloids (notW) get away with publishing the story (as in Wise) and then pass their 'evidence' to the police afterwards. There is no reason not to publish other than if not rue it is libel, perhaps that is the real cowardness behind all this. Denigrate and demean someone from in this fashion is the act of the most low of humans.

06-07-2008, 09:28 PM	#93 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,323	BOb FM: You are talking about matters about which you know little. On this forum only two or three days ago, an individual who will remain anonymous, make very serious allegations - the posting was quickly removed- but, I understand, legal proceedings could be pending. You are not a fit person to give advice. Talking to a Spaniard about politics, must be as incongrous as talking to a eunuch about sex. From neither, for want of experience, could sound universal principles be formulated. Why not become interested in darts, or something as equally exciting. What have the poor Swindonians done to deserve you!

07-07-2008, 12:14 AM	#96 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,872	Bob FM. One of the first laws of survival in a political battlefield is "Know your enemy". You regard GLW as your enemy. You should have done your research before launching into a petty bitchfest about him. GLW is not my favourite eurosceptic; I respect his passion but not the way he presents that passion. Having said that, the man has survived cancer this long through sheer willpower. He has invested some of his passion and resources into helping educate and support others affected by the same disease. He does that knowing he is living on borrowed time. Don't belittle others, ever. It does not show maturity or the personal qualities required in a MP manqué.

07-07-2008, 12:20 AM	#97 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,872	Geoffrey, don't disparage the noble art of darts. For centuries, all freemen had to practice at the butts on a Sunday, to maintain their archery skills. Darts is simply the "indoors if wet" alternative. Granted, the finesse is nothing like that required by a decent jouster, but the hand-to-eye co-ordination required by a competent indoor archer is still considerable.

07-07-2008, 07:19 AM	#98 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,148	GC another racist comment: Talking to a Spaniard about politics, must be as incongrous as talking to a eunuch about sex. From neither, for want of experience, could sound universal principles be formulated. As it happens I was aware that GLW had suffered some form of ill health as he spends the first 5 minutes of one of his video's talking about how inefficient the health service is and how they made him ill etc etc. Never assume that others do not have similar issues. He may well be trying to help others but like so many things with this man it is an obsession. You have only got to look at the site to see that. He takes it upon himself to publish other people cases. I wonder does he ever ask. Perhaps these people would prefer anonymity. I had no desire to receive the email he sent and I would suspect the vast majority on his mailing list would feel the same. His obsession is about himself. I sympathy for his ill health, but not for the man himself. He has made my life a misery over the last couple of months. And for the record and as a warning to others my PC has been infected with AntiVirus 2008 off the back of one of his emails. I have apparently removed it but it keeps popping up.

07-07-2008, 11:56 AM	#99 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,323	BobFM: Wouldn't it have nice for you to have said, 'yes, GLW and I seem to agree on little, but creating the largest private and free website for cancer sufferers is most laudable'. In this life, wherever possible, you should be, 'hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise', How on earth can those who disagree, one with another, about so many things, ever hope to peacefully co-exist? What is very conspicuous about your postings, is a total absence of generosity for anyone with whom you disagree. Take for example Chikrodah and me; we disagree strongly about the importance of colour in Tahitian art, but we don't dwell on that strong disagreement; we compensate by dwelling on those things which unite us: jousting, darts, and the demand for fork-truck drivers in the comtemporary industrial scene. Is there not lesson there for you BoBFM! As for that 'racist comment'. Do you not realise that a Fleet St. journalist, would give a right-arm to craft an analogy like that. When I say to the waiter in the Little Holland restaurant, you are 'talking double- Dutch, boy', they don't become offended. You win the European Cup, and Wimbledon in the same week, but you continue to complain. Never mind, time will sort it all out one presumes.