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Old 05-06-2008, 03:02 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Not pomposity but perspicacity, cassie. My innate modesty, guarantees me immunity from those manifold human failings experienced by the multitude. You are now showing signs of humour Cassie, soon you will be abandoning all foolish thoughts of an English Parliament, and be more than content just to celebrate the accomplishments of Simon de Montfort.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Yup and hell will freeze over in the time needed for UKIP to gain power through votes cast!!!!
Sir - you are mo(i)st unjust.
Global warning will prevent this from happening, will it not, My Lord ?
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Not pomposity but perspicacity, cassie. My innate modesty, guarantees me immunity from those manifold human failings experienced by the multitude. You are now showing signs of humour Cassie, soon you will be abandoning all foolish thoughts of an English Parliament, and be more than content just to celebrate the accomplishments of Simon de Montfort.
Without at all conceding perspicacy on your part, permit me to observe that, as with cynicism and realism, it and pomposity are not mutually exclusive!

Yes, your ironic reference to 'innate modesty' is quite amusing!

You might find this link to the text of Frank Field's recent lecture thought provoking: The Cross of StGeorge blog


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I am not at all pompous, I know and like various people from many crawls of life. I have already read the, Cross of St George Blog. Now you read Simon de Montfort. For long enough, you have been reading political Enid Blyton. Now move on to Dicey, Amory, Baghot, Ivor Jennings, and much else. Was it Benjamin Franklin who described the British Constitution as the, 'Worlds greatest invention'? Haven't you started yet!
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I am not at all pompous, I know and like various people from many crawls of life. I have already read the, Cross of St George Blog. Now you read Simon de Montfort. For long enough, you have been reading political Enid Blyton. Now move on to Dicey, Amory, Baghot, Ivor Jennings, and much else. Was it Benjamin Franklin who described the British Constitution as the, 'Worlds greatest invention'? Haven't you started yet!
We all know that you have an inflated opinion of yourself, but really it is for others to say! Self praise is no recommendation!

Clearly you have no idea how silly your attempts at superior erudition are. One might as cite Wisden's for all the relevance of your references!

Perhaps if you were gradually going blind but for the want of drugs freely prescribed in Scotland and Wales you'd not be so complacently 'pragmatic' . . or dying from cancer or suffering from unrelieved Alzheimer's for similar causes!

How can anyone admire an idiot claiming compatriotism who has such callous complacency?


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Sir - you are mo(i)st unjust.
Global warning will prevent this from happening, will it not, My Lord ?
Just for the record I do NOT believe in man made global warming as the whole scare is just another way to control and tax us more!

The point about UKIP is surely to hasten the day we leave the EU. Waiting until UKIP has sufficeient power to do this is just wishful thinking and yes hell will freeze over before this happens!!

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Cassie: You would not be able to cite one example to support either your broad theory or particular example. If we wanted free prescriptions, or free anything else, already available to the Scots and Welsh, we could have them, should that be the will of that Parliament at Westminster. Your example about going blind/ Alzheimers, etc. are wholly irrelevant, for such people would not be required to pay for their prescriptions under those circumstances which you describe. Although a lot of emotive nonsense is generated on the subject of prescriptions, only a tiny percentage actually pay that charge even in England. As I have argued previously on this thread, the economic argument for the abolition of prescription charges and education loans, on economic grounds alone are self-evident. I would, however, in respect of education grants, impose a graduate tax band, at about half a percent, above basic tax level over the graduates' working-life. This would be cheaper, and certainly less bureaucratic, than an ever increasing army of paid and pensioned bureaucrats, to collect loans on behalf of private loan companies. Can you expalin where my reasoning is in error? I genuinely want to know. I would even add to the list for abolition, residential charges in care homes for the aged. Many of your perceived injustices, were introduced by Conservative governments
between 1979-1997. when they had substantial majorities provided by English constituencies. They are not the consequence of increased internal control in Scotland, and Wales.

Remember what the Black Report said; ' A prejudice, is an opinon or belief, unsupported either by experience or evidence'. What would be your reason for rejecting that definition?

This suppose to be a friendly debate, by the way.
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