johnwest

Key points from my speech:

Romanians responsible for 85% of cash point fraud.

Police struggling to cope.

One in seven prison inmates is a migrant.

YouGov poll shows that 60% of British people think immigration has made Britain a more dangerous place in which to live.

Government denied Gurkhas the right to British citizenship but granted it to foreign criminals.

ukiplassie

Good luck with your speech, it is nice to see someone trying and promoting UKIP. Hope you get some positive publicity for the party!

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Earthling

Yes, best of luck to you.

If it is filmed make sure we can see it on Youtube!

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YI MEMBER

Quite frankly I think its terrible content for a speech and sounds like it could belong to the BNP. Making a conference about law and order, which is perfectly legitimate and a fantastic opportunity to promote our sound domestic policy into a racist rant I believe is truly bad for this party and whatever you personally think, or whatever other people think, its not really the way this party should be moving forward. Personally I think the statements are shaky at best- one in seven prison inmates is an immigrant....so six out of seven are British citizens! We all agree with UKIP's policy on immigration, that's part of the reason we support the party but I feel that economical and practical reasons to do with limited resources are a legitimate reason to believe in that policy, and these kind of sweeping assertions should be kept as statistics framed by a bigger picture, not used as rhetoric to persuade your audience that immigration is the main source of the social problems we face as the BNP do. I fully believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I believe in freedom of speech (not unconditionally) but in this case I think John West ought to consider the consequences of his decision to put his views on the platform when UKIP is experiencing great difficulty with its image and in attracting wider support. Personally, I will not be proud to be associated with a party that endorses this kind of rhetoric, partly because it is a terrible argument for an otherwise sound policy and partly because it shows a complete ignorance of commercial awareness for the future of this party by a prolific member who should be aware that image is everything.

Legin

Had you bothered to support UKIP's conference and listened to all the speakers, including 2 from Young Independence, and questions from the audience I think you just might have learnt something, it was an excellent conference, well organised, well attended and I for one look forward to John and Christopher organising another conference which I hope you would attend!!

YI MEMBER

You have made several unqualified assumptions here-

1. That I did not attend the conference because I could not be bothered

2. That I have a negative opinion on any of the other speakers or speeches

3. That I was somehow criticising the organisation of the conference

4. That having heard the speech in full my fears would have been completely allayed.

I am afraid you are wrong on all counts.

Bett Nwar

Law and order isn't just about immigrants, but about police spending too much time on paperwork, excessive amount of petty new laws and restrictions which reduce respect for law, no real plan for prison building and reform and failure to target the crimes which induce most fear. 2% of rape allegations are prosecuted, but UKIP supporters want to prosecute dead men for treason and are wasting valuable police time trying to do it - sense of priorities or what?

Rumanians might be the biggest number of people committing a specialised crime, but white collar fraud belongs to Brits.

YI MEMBER

Exactly, you are very right and my point is precisely; why focus on just one aspect of crime when there are so many and we have such good policy to deal with all of those aspects? We all know, and prominent members like John especially should, that UKIP has got an image problem because the public are incapable of differentiating us from the BNP partly because of this kind of stunt which uses their language. I know that the other speakers made some very good speeches which did talk about these other aspects but in my mind that does not excuse John.

Michael Heaver

While I do applaud John West and Chris Hudson for setting up the conference and thank them allowing me to speak there, I do feel the day was too focused on the issue of the EU and immigration as opposed to law and order as a purely domestic policy.

Wait until it comes out on YouTube and then we can all make our own judgements.

douglas denny

Having ones cake and eating it, perhaps?
Whatever is "terrible" about telling the truth?

It's a perfectly legitimate and sound argument:- Why allow the increasing of the criminal element in the country when you don't have to if all you need is simple, effective, real control at the borders?

America won't let anyone in now without fingerprints and/or other biometric data and proper visas. So you think they are doing it all wrong?

And what do you want then from a political party? Sound policy and promoting it? or a supine, toothless party that is afraid of telling it as it is?

UKIP is committed to telling the truth no matter how unpalatable or non-'politically correct'. And it is no way 'racist' to name and shame the criminal element responsible for crime. The East European criminal element are a very real and dangerous lot to deal with - and we now have them here in this country right NOW.... and our rotten government has deliberately let them in! That's the way it is! That's what needs saying! And that is what needs addressing NOW -by a proper government which takes responsibility in protecting its people from the criminals - and which we do NOT have.

So you don't like someone saying the truth - publicly? because it is distasteful? These imported criminals are a problem and should be recognised as such.
We have already had examples of this: severe problems with West Jamaican 'Yardies' for example killing innocents as well as each other, whose use of handguns to 'protect' their drugs selling turf is normal practice.

It is a well known fact that allowing immigration without limits or checks is going to allow in the criminal element of the culture of those being let in - along with the good guys.

I have been told by someone in the police that the Bulgarian and Romanians criminals (who can walk into this country without check, and if caught cannot be deported, or if they are, can just walk back in again without molestation) ....make our criminals look like pussycats ......

At least the Krays loved their mother, kept to their patch, kept out of the way of the police and left the locals alone ....
These imported criminals see everyone here as prey. That means you and me.

We are mad to import them without restrictions.

Another very good reason why we need to get proper control back of our borders - which in turn means leaving the EU.

DED.
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