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Old 27-05-2008, 06:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 27-05-2008, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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And here is the Lib Dem view:
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Andrew Duff, leader of Britain’s Liberal Democrat Euro-MPs and a committed EU Federalist, has opposed the silencing of UKIP on the basis of democratic principle.
”Whatever one’s views about their politics it cannot be argued that these small groups do not represent a strand of European public opinion,” he said.
”If the European Parliament is to be the legitimate forum for post-national democracy, all sorts of minority opinions have to be given effective, if proportionate representation.”
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So what would happen to IndDem if it gets passed?
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As soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky said: 'I've lived in your future.'
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”We want to avoid the formation of a fragmented Parliament, deeply divided into many small groups and unable to work effectively.”
So by destroying 1 of 7 groupings, this will somehow reform the whole EU parliament?
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So what would happen to IndDem if it gets passed?
Well, it is slightly irrelevant, IMHO. If UKIP loses just four or five MEPs (from the original 12) in the next EU elections, and the rest of the group stands still, the group would disappear anyway. At the moment, UKIP doesn't show any signs of doing particularly well. That may of course change as the EU elections approach and it becomes a hot topic again.

However, if you think that UKIP will hold on to 10-12 MEPs or even gain some, then the group would still disappear unless they could find eight more members from somewhere.

If, like Mr Farage, you are, er, optimistic, and think that UKIP is going to double its number of MEPs (presumably to 20, rather than 24), then the Ind/Dem group will be fine anyway.
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As soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky said: 'I've lived in your future.'
And again this plan they want for Europe's future still wont work! no matter how much the EU may wont it to.
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I realise about the next elections but the vote is to be July 9 - nearly a year away from our 2009 Euroelection. If we lose out on the 9th, would UKIP MEPs go independent? Or try to find their nearest grouping?
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If, like Mr Farage, you are, er, optimistic, and think that UKIP is going to double its number of MEPs (presumably to 20, rather than 24), then the Ind/Dem group will be fine anyway.
When/where was that prediction made?
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When/where was that prediction made?
I think that it was in his leadership election manifesto, but he has repeated it since, I am sure.
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