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Old 22-05-2008, 04:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What has prevented war in Europe has nothing to do with Europe it has everything to do with NATO and the abillity to destroy this planet several times over Europe has nothing to do with it.
We may well see a shift away from NATO in favour of an EU force.
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Old 22-05-2008, 04:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Something like this, perhaps?

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We should indeed be worried despite HMG's denials, a Euro Force is well and truly on the radar. My son who is RN knows all to well command structures are being geared for this very thing, without the public having a clue. The formation of the 5 nation 'force' is a precursor to this. What people seem to forget is that only a 35% population vote and 4 countries is necessary to block any attempt to scupper such an idea. The 5 countries involved could muster that percentage. So imagine, if there was a push under Article 48 for a full Euroforce, and the 15 national 65% voted it down, along come France etc and vote the no vote down.
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Old 22-05-2008, 08:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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We should indeed be worried despite HMG's denials, a Euro Force is well and truly on the radar....
You are right.

Don't blame the EU, it is HMG we should hold responsible.
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