Sikh Protest Outside EU Parliament Results in Action

mkpdavies · 18-05-2008, 08:49 AM

Panthic Weekly: Sikh Protest Outside EU Parliament Results in Action

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Last year although Sikhs were still not given free access to the European Parliament, alternative arrangements were made at London House and the Eastman Building in the EU Parliament for MEPs to address and meet Sikhs.
This year the Eastman Building was eventually provided, but only after Sikhs and MEPs caused disruption at the start of the day in the presence of the media. MEPs from the UK Independence Party (UKIP), including Tom Wise, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten and Michael Nattrass took the lead with this.

Good work, if only it wasn't tarnished by having a crooks name against it.

C_steam · 18-05-2008, 09:36 AM

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MEPs from the UK Independence Party (UKIP), including Tom Wise

Tom Wise is not a UKIP MEP.

Oh yes he is....

Oh no he isn't

Oh yes he is....

etc

gawain · 18-05-2008, 12:35 PM

Tom was there, we cannot and will not airbrush as if he were Trotsky

C_steam · 18-05-2008, 12:59 PM

Agreed. Just proves my point that in everyones eyes, Wise is still a UKIP MEP.

Otherwise (no pun intended) why did UKIP allow him to be one of the people from the party to 'take the lead' in this. Perhaps a cleverer strategy would have been to ask Tom not to turn up - but that would take leadership.

gawain · 18-05-2008, 01:02 PM

C Steam

250-300 Sikhs milling around. I cannot forbid any MEP from our parrty or not from meeting up with constituents. Some Labour and Lib Dems turned up. But it was Derek Clark and Mike Nattrass who did the lion's share of the work. Do you think press officers can tell people what to write?

C_steam · 18-05-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gawain

I cannot forbid any MEP from our parrty or not from meeting up with constituents.

see? The unconscious inference in your above is that Wise is a UKIP MEP. That's all I'm saying, that quite simply in everyone's minds including the media and, in fact, yours, that Wise is a UKIP MEP.

Just sack the tosser.

gawain · 18-05-2008, 05:17 PM

Last word on the subject and I have ben here before Mr Wise is a UKIP member. He is an MEP and if he was in a similar position in Westminster he would be regarded as 'Independent UKIP'. The whip was withdrawn. He does not sit with the UKIP MEPs in the chamber, he does not attend UKIP meetings.

He is not a UKIP MEP.

What part of this don't you understand? Or are you being disengenous?

Bob FM · 18-05-2008, 05:53 PM

Gawain as a forum with such a title, it lacks the essential element.

Anthony Butcher · 18-05-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gawain

he does not attend UKIP meetings.

I believe that he very recently claimed that he does attend UKIP meetings in Brussels. I might be wrong of course

C_steam · 18-05-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gawain

I cannot forbid any MEP from our parrty or not

Gawain - since clearly wise is not 'not of our party' then you have clearly stated that wise is "an MEP from our party".

Which part of that don't you understand?

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C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Anwhere far away from the cabalistas Posts: 7,460	Agreed. Just proves my point that in everyones eyes, Wise is still a UKIP MEP. Otherwise (no pun intended) why did UKIP allow him to be one of the people from the party to 'take the lead' in this. Perhaps a cleverer strategy would have been to ask Tom not to turn up - but that would take leadership. __________________ -------------------------------------------------- Users on ignore list: None. I've got to have people to laugh at. Cowardly Posters* list: BobFM, Bellatrix.*People who post personal insults then refuse to reply .

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18-05-2008, 12:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
gawain Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 264	Tom was there, we cannot and will not airbrush as if he were Trotsky

18-05-2008, 01:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
gawain Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 264	C Steam 250-300 Sikhs milling around. I cannot forbid any MEP from our parrty or not from meeting up with constituents. Some Labour and Lib Dems turned up. But it was Derek Clark and Mike Nattrass who did the lion's share of the work. Do you think press officers can tell people what to write?

18-05-2008, 05:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
gawain Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 264	Last word on the subject and I have ben here before Mr Wise is a UKIP member. He is an MEP and if he was in a similar position in Westminster he would be regarded as 'Independent UKIP'. The whip was withdrawn. He does not sit with the UKIP MEPs in the chamber, he does not attend UKIP meetings. He is not a UKIP MEP. What part of this don't you understand? Or are you being disengenous?