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Old 12-05-2008, 08:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It is not reasonable for him to describe himself as a UKIP MEP. In fact it is wrong of him to do so.
Nope. It is entirely reasonable for Tom to describe himslef as a UKIP MEP should he (wrongly) want to - the electorate would not see a difference. Withdrawal of the whip is not an expulsion from the party - which is what needs to happen.
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The idea of UKIP running a bath scares the hell out of me, never mind the country.
LMAO - Nicely put.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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One more thing DD. If he isn't a UKIP MEP but is still using a UKIP website to advertise himself as a UKIP MEP, and using a UKIP email address, surely this is reason enough for a disciplinary investigation? He is demonstrably using the party logo and name for false advertising.
Agreed. I was going to suggest this in my earlier posting but did not for brevity.

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I think you will find the considered response from the NEC a satisfactory one.

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P.S. I confirm there is disc. action being taken, and I state now I could be wrong regarding details I surmised. I do not have full details myself as per the rules. I can say no more.

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I think you will find the considered response from the NEC a satisfactory one.
I look forward to it.
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Was this decision based on an NEC vote, Farage's orders or did someone submit some 'documented evidence'?
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It`s all too little too late .Mote was swiftly dealt with ,the Tom Wise saga has become a fiasco ,he clearly brought the party into disrepute ages ago .
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,he clearly brought the party into disrepute ages ago .[/quote]

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He is still a UKIP member. Therefore, he can quite easily refer to himself as a UKIP MEP.
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I look forward to it.

Was this decision based on an NEC vote, Farage's orders or did someone submit some 'documented evidence'?
Sub Judice. Therefore what little I know cannot say - as you well know.
Even NEC members know little of the detail as per rules. (Quite rightly).

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He is still a UKIP member. Therefore, he can quite easily refer to himself as a UKIP MEP.
You do not seem to understand there is a rather fundamental difference between a UKIP member and a UKIP MEP. Or are you being deliberately obtuse?

One is a payed-up member of a political party; the other is an elected member of the EU parliament. As an MEP, to take the UKIP whip he must be accepted by the chief whip in the parliament (NF leader of Ind Dem Group) and the other members. If the whip has been removed he is no longer a UKIP MEP. Full stop.

He can take up the title whatever other party or group he wishes if they accept him, or just remain an independent MEP.

Tom Wise is not a UKIP MEP, and hasn't been so for quite a while.

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