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Old 10-05-2008, 07:06 AM   #31 (permalink)
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He is rarely there. He has just about the lowest attendance record in committee of any MEP, and last year the NFU grumbled about "UKIP's man on agriculture never showing up".
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:56 AM   #32 (permalink)
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We know who you oppose, who do you support?
I support those members in the East who put Country before personal gain.
As far as the MEP candidates are concerned I will have to wait until we get the list. However, as you can imagine I will not be voting for Titford's so-called heir if he gets that far.
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:39 PM   #33 (permalink)
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1. It is common knowledge that Titford has promised Gulleford the seat. At the last UKIP conference he told members that Gulleford was his successor because "he is a safe pair of hands". Sometime ago Titford did consider standing down because of ill health. Gulleford begged him not to do it as Page would takeover. Gulleford was almost in tears over this and so Titford changed his mind.

2. According to another post on this forum Titford confirmed the email originated from his office. All emails from that office are passed to Gulleford for approval before being sent.Even if it did not originate from him he still would have seen it.

3. Gulleford never seems to realise that his rumours always get back to those in question. I am sure that both West and Hudson would confirm this. Unfortunately I don't think they will be prepared to post conformation of this on the forum. One Suffolk Coastal member told me that West does not want to get involved in mud slinging.

4. The rumours about Page started prior to the 2004 elections. You would only need to ask those who worked at Chelmsford in 2004 to confirm what happened.
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1. The meeting in question was held at the Troxy in a side room. It was intended for Eastern Counties members although I was told that other members from other areas may attend. Imagine my surprise when Titford and Gulleford refused access to Bannerman and Batten. It turned out that both were rumoured to have MEP ambitions in the East. Because of this Gulleford asked Titford to deny them access. Imagine a situation where you ban Bannerman, a Suffolk PPC and Deputy Leader from a UKIP meeting! On another two occasions Titford has referred to Gulleford as "my successor". Titford has no right to do this. It is up to the members to decide who succeeds him.

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Old 10-05-2008, 05:47 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You assume UKIP to be a democratic polity, Fordtit: You is wrong!
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:15 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I didn't know that Jeffrey had moved south - to Sussex, I hear - but would like to put in a good word for him.

I found him to be a sincere and hard-working man for whom it was a pleasure to work. He had to deal with the outbreak of hostilities between Michael Holmes and the 'NEC Nine', led by Tony Scholefield, which erupted within three months of his election to the European Parliament.

The stormy conference, which effectively was a vote of no confidence in Michael Holmes, followed in January 2000 - and I recall that Jeffrey made a statesmanlike speech during the debate. He tried to mediate between the two 'sides'. The dispute was exceptionally bitter.

After becoming Party Leader in April 2000 (if memory serves), he had to contend with Nigel Farage effectively trying to run the party and making most of the decisions. Nigel's selling of a BBC video, apparently in breach of copyright, was the last straw for Bryan Smalley, who promptly resigned as Party Secretary.

I'd like to think that my time with him, which ended in February 2001, was reasonably productive; a lot of people were kind enough to say so at the time.

He was a very fair employer and cared about his country and the success of the party.

In fairness to other names on this thread, both Donald Davidson as Chairman of C.I.B. Essex and Stuart Gulleford as their Press Officer contributed to Essex C.I.B. being easily the largest C.I.B. branch in the country, with well over 300 members at its peak. Both men were helpful to me whilst I worked for Jeffrey. There were many well-attended Essex C.I.B. branch meetings at The Saracen's Head.

In October 1999, just three months after Jeffrey was elected M.E.P., Donald organised a highly effective public meeting on Europe at which I think around 250 attended. That was the start of my anti-metric 'awakening'. I could scarcely believe that Britain was about to make it a crime to sell in pounds and ounces - and distributed, on behalf of U.K.I.P., a leaflet on the subject.

It was read by a Leigh-on-Sea butcher, the late Dave Stephens.

On 3 January 2000, Dave was handed an enforcement notice by Southend-on-Sea Unitary Authority, ordering him to cease using his Imperial scales. To which he blew a raspberry.

On 6 January 2000, Jeffrey Titford paid in a personal cheque for £50 at the NatWest Bank in Chelmsford, and thus the 'UKIP Metric Martyrs Fund' was begun

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Mr Bennett, I understand what you are saying but recent events in the East prove that Jeffrey Titford no longer have the interests of the party at heart, even if he did several years ago. He is using his position to promote Gulleford as his heir. He also approved the sending of an email attacking UKIP members in the East because they may threaten Gulleford's chances of selection. Many would say that this is an abuse of his position. He accused the speakers of self promotion which could be taken as an attack on Gerard Batten and David Campbell Bannerman as they were listed as speakers. This was done only a few days before important London and local elections. This hardly helped the party. He also ignored the NEC who said the conference could go ahead. Are these the actions of a man with UKIP's interests at heart?

On a personal note I feel that perhaps John West could have used more local speakers rather than the big guns but as I say that is just my opinion.

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I have known and occasionally worked with Mr Gulleford for over eight years. In that time I came to realise that he represented the worst qualities of the career politician. He sees Jeffery's Titford's seat as his right. Indeed, Jeffrey promised him the seat years ago. Gulleford now sees people like West, Hudson and others as a direct threat to that promise. Indeed, he has spread stories about all of them in the hope that mud will stick. The recent Titford email is a classic example of this. He did the same thing in 2004 when Robin Page looked like getting the top slot. A story about Page later appeared in a national newspaper.

However, he never spreads the rumours himself. He always hides behind others and lets them do the dirty work.

He has been trained well by Titford then! In turn Titford by the devious Farage!
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I support those members in the East who put Country before personal gain.
As far as the MEP candidates are concerned I will have to wait until we get the list. However, as you can imagine I will not be voting for Titford's so-called heir if he gets that far.

Neither will a lot of other people from the information I have gathered!!
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[quote=Tony Bennett;499037]I didn't know that Jeffrey had moved south - to Sussex, I hear - but would like to put in a good word for him.

II too would like to put a good word for him, 'Stop backing a looser, and do the job you were elected to do, or retire now to your cosy pad down south'.
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Neither will a lot of other people from the information I have gathered!!

I would like to see more women standing in both Westminster and EU elections. I was quite impressed by Alison West at the immigration conference and hope she has put her name forward. Does anyone know if she has?
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