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Old 06-05-2008, 03:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's the fourth article on that site promoting the UKIP pro-smoking-choice policy.
Ron Paul had strong support from the gambling industry too. It all comes down to whether you really believe in freedom or not.

I put it to you that the majority of people don't, including a large percentage of this forum.
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Correction, you have no rights when it comes to someone elses property. Pubs are not a government service, they're privately owned businesses. Would you presume you had the right to enjoy someone else's garden?

Smoking policy is a subject for landlords. If there was truly money to be made by having a non-smoking policy then that's what they would do.

I still don't see what was wrong with the old arrangement of having smoking and non-smoking sections.
Fair point, and I must admit that I dislike going through the doors of a pub now (due to smokers gathered outside) .

The building may be privately owned, but it is a public service, which is regulated and therefore the government does have a say.
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Ron Paul had strong support from the gambling industry too. It all comes down to whether you really believe in freedom or not.

I put it to you that the majority of people don't, including a large percentage of this forum.
Ron Paul is a first class idiot who will never get elected into a position of *true* power.
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Ron Paul is a first class idiot who will never get elected into a position of *true* power.
Like congressman you mean.
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Like congressman you mean.
Not a position of true power, he only has shared power.
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What is a position of true power then pray tell?
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I really don't see why we don't have a license for smoking venues. It's easy, smokers don't have to go to a no-smoking pub, and non-smokers don't have to go to a smoking pub.
What is wrong with giving people a choice, all the people, smokers, non-smokers and landlords?

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What is a position of true power then pray tell?
Presidential power, the ability to veto and issue.
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Presidential power, the ability to veto and issue.
Still shared power old bean.
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Neither do they, but then science tips the balance in our favour, as smoking is toxic, and thus we have greater rights not to smoke, than the right to smoke.
Neither has a greater right to anything
as has been said what about compromise something the British used to be good at until the PC and safety elfs took over


The other point is that reducing deaths is an EU target
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