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Old 03-05-2008, 05:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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UKIP must now join forces / integrate with the BNP. Together they would be strong. The choice is now UKIPs as the BNP are now the stronger of the two.
As I said in an earlier posting I thought the BNP would do well in local elections. I also said in the next GE and EU elections the BNP support will melt away! Time, I think will prove me right!
I and I'm sure many like me had heard of the BNP long before we'd heard of UKIP! I like many others chose to join UKIP and not the BNP! That was a number of years ago and I'm still glad I joined UKIP and not the BNP!
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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UKIP are suposedly strong in the south east. London assembly results, in that case, are very bad:-

1.Conservative Party 835,535 34.05%
2.The Labour Party 665,443 27.12%
3.Liberal Democrats 275,272 11.22%
4.Green Party 203,465 8.29%
5.British National Party 130,714 5.33%

No Assembly representation.

6.The Christian Choice 70,294 2.86%
7.Abolish the Congestion Charge 63,596 2.59%
8.Respect 59,721 2.43%
9.UK Independence Party 46,617 1.90%
10.English Democrats 25,569 1.04%

beaten by respect and christian choice, let alone the bnp. Is this really good enough for a mature party?
where to go from here?

4 choices

1. leave the country.

2. support tories.

3. support liebour

4. start a revolution.

sorry 5 choices

5.Abolish the Congestion Charge 63,596 2.59% (join them)

70% of the electorate are only ever going to vote for 2 or 3 so what is the point its tribal.

any way got to go and put the chickens away and water the veggies..............

have fun.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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where to go from here?

4 choices

1. leave the country.

2. support tories.

3. support liebour

4. start a revolution.

sorry 5 choices

5.Abolish the Congestion Charge 63,596 2.59% (join them)

70% of the electorate are only ever going to vote for 2 or 3 so what is the point its tribal.

any way got to go and put the chickens away and water the veggies..............

have fun.
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where to go from here?

4 choices

1. leave the country.

2. support tories.

3. support liebour

4. start a revolution.

sorry 5 choices

5.Abolish the Congestion Charge 63,596 2.59% (join them)

I think No:1 is looking more and more like the best option.

Sell up and get your capital out of this country while you still can, although house price slump has already started to restrict people's mobility.

If you move somewhere cheaper (Eastern Europe still looks a good bet but that window is closing fast) then you can buy somewhere quite impressive and live on your investments on the Chinese or Indian Stock Markets. Once UK economy collapses (now inevitable in my opinion) you can use your Asian financial muscle to move back to the UK and pick up cheap property left behind by economic migrants who will by then have left the decaying carcass of the UK and will be moving on to the next golden goose.
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If you are going to move out of the UK,better to move out of the Communist EU all together and move to the States,its much cheaper,cleaner,safer and civilised,of course commies like Bear will say not so,but,take it from one who has done it,and one who knows,the Communist EU or the Capitalist US,America wins by a mile and is real value for money now.
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Abolish the Congestion charge polled huge ammounts on the assembly. Doesn't it just show the power of advertising. Almost think its tempting to make it UK Indpendence from the EU party, probably would spell it out for those who don't know about us.
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wouldn't be approved by the electoral commission. Maximun 6 words on the description section of any ballot paper (unless Welsh of course then its 6 English plus Welsh Translation).

UK Indpendence from the EU party would be 8 words since they would insist on UK being counted as 2 (United Kingdom) and similarly EU (European Union) is also two even if the UK and EU abbreviated form is used.

"Leave the EU" would be acceptable
"Let's get our Country back" would also be allowable (Let's being counted as two)
"Just say NO to the EU" would be 7
"Freedom for Tooting" could catch on.....

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The best piece of new this week, was the success by Stuart Wheeler, in obtaining a judicial review of the Lisbon Treaty.This has potential for success, not a certainty, but the potential to be very significant. Sadly, our NEC, again, managed to 'miss the bus'.

When the public were asked to send their ideas to Mr Wheeler's Q.C. I wrote to him with a few suggestions. Hopefully, others did the same, and that some good will result from their efforts. Even at this late hour, we should apologise to Mr Wheeler for UKIP's delay in sending our contribution; but we do so now. Forget about contesting Crewe and Nantwich, we didn't in the last GE, so let's give it another miss now. Let us do what we can, to make amends for our foolish indifference to the, 'Wheeler Case' and make an appeal to UKIP members for donations.

It is not inconceivable, that the judges may agree with the Lisbon Treaty's authors, that
is but a rose by another name. That will allow Brown to give us a referendum. He could be in deep trouble by the end of this Summer, and he must know that a referendum will be popular with the electorate - a plus - but it could devastate the Conservatives. Having voted for a referendum, confident that it would be defeated; a favourable ruling in the Wheeler Case, would cause real panic among the tories. It would lock them in to
an internal feud. Brown must know that a referendum, would free him from the constraints of New Labour, and offer him some prospect, of not being the victim of a possible internal leadership battle. What is certain, Brown would have no future, should the Court give Wheeler the judgement that he wants, but Brown refused us a referendum yet again.

The L.A, London, and Mayoral results were poor, but they would not have made all that much difference if they had been better. The Wheeler Case must now receive all our attention and efforts.
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Where to from here?

I would suggest that the UKIP leadership go on a tour of the country. Starting in Hartlepool, passing through Newcastle under lyme and finishing in Dudley. While in these places they could do something really radical. Listen and learn. Lets find out what our branches in these three locations are doing so well and then develop a detailed campaigning guide for other branches. Hell lets really go for it arrange for meet-ups and training sessions.

While Gerard Batten was polling a little over 22,000 votes across the whole of Greater London the party received over half of that, just over 12,000 votes, in the 21 (out of 24) wards contested in Dudley. We must be able to learn something from them.
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It is not inconceivable, that the judges may agree with the Lisbon Treaty's authors, that
is but a rose by another name. That will allow Brown to give us a referendum. He could be in deep trouble by the end of this Summer, and he must know that a referendum will be popular with the electorate - a plus - but it could devastate the Conservatives. Having voted for a referendum, confident that it would be defeated; a favourable ruling in the Wheeler Case, would cause real panic among the tories. It would lock them in to
an internal feud. Brown must know that a referendum, would free him from the constraints of New Labour, and offer him some prospect, of not being the victim of a possible internal leadership battle. What is certain, Brown would have no future, should the Court give Wheeler the judgement that he wants, but Brown refused us a referendum yet again.
If that could occur he may not be so popular with boy dave and his glee club hmmm
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