Tory rebel Bob Spink becomes Ukip's first MP !!!!

Geoffrey Collier · 22-04-2008, 02:12 PM

Hartlepool: I would suspect the fourth largest party in the HOC, would either be the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) or the Scottish Nationalist Party (SNP). I'll check in Whitaker's Almanack when the spirit moves me.

Westcountryman · 22-04-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Can anyone say which party in HoC comes in as the 4th largest party regards the number of MPs they have in the HoC?

We need a couple of more MPs to move over to our side of the street,then,just watch the political spit hit the fans in this country,the Communist styled European Union and probably the rest of the world in due time.

Party breakdown: UK Parliament - party

blueblood1920 · 22-04-2008, 02:50 PM

Castle Point Council nominations

APPLETON
Tom Skipp * (Con)
John Trollope (Lab)
BOYCE
Harry Brett (Lab)
Ron Hurrell (UKIP)
Jeffery Stanley* (Con)

CANVEY CENTRAL
John Anderson* (Can Ind)
Dorothy Best (Con)
Bill Deal (Lab)

CANVEY EAST
Katie Curtis (Lab)
Colin MacLean (Con)
Anne Wood* (Can Ind)

CANVEY NORTH
Carole Cross (Con)
John Morgan (BNP)
Jacqueline Riley (Lab)
Martin Tucker* (Can Ind)

CANVEY SOUTH
Peter Barber (BNP)
Michael Curham (Lab)
Mark Howard (Con)
Brian Wood* (Can Ind)

CANVEY WINTER GARDENS
Barry Dixie* (Can Ind)
Pat Haunts (Con)
Margaret McArthur-Curtis (Lab)

CEDAR HALL
Lorna Trollope (Lab)
Liz Wass* (Con)

ST GEORGE'S
Joe Cook (Lab)
Clive Walter (Con)

ST JAMES'S
Fred Jones (Lab)
Nanine Pachy (Green)
Bill Sharp* (Con)

ST MARY'S
David Cross* (Con)
Scott Smith (BNP)
Anthony Wright (Lab)

ST PETER'S
Beverley Egan* (Con)
William Emberson (Lab)
Eileen Peck (Green)

VICTORIA
Alan Curtis (Lab)
Enid Issacs* (Con)
Lesley Morgan (Green)

Has UKIP fell apart here locally?

More BNP candidates than that of UKIP which may support my view I posted before.

Mikeuk · 22-04-2008, 03:06 PM

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Oh yes, Bob Spink!

The guy who’s local party thought so much about him the didn’t want him to be exposed to the rigours of him remaining their conservative candidate, and who, to save them the embarrassment of showing their affection by saying so, jumped ship in a rather spectacular, if inappropriate, manner.

Good at playing the Race card as well, and I don’t mean the gee gee’s “What part of send them back don’t you understand Mr. Blair” was a Spink-ism.

In my opinion a person elected on a party political card should resign his seat if he reaches a point at which he feels he can no longer support that party.

To do otherwise is disenfranchising the people who voted for them at the election that they won.

That would be the honourable course of action for an honourable person to take but of course MP’s never do.

Says a great deal about our MP’s I guess.
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Signature removed because it wound me up every time I read it!

The Bear posted this on the closed 'Spink' thread.

The guy has Racism on the brain.

Is he a supporter of UKIP or the SWP?

Aardvark · 22-04-2008, 03:08 PM

Could Canvey Island be the offshore British island that Ashley Mote and his white supremacist mates is going to purchase and declare as an independent white state?

Wowbanger TIP · 22-04-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

Personally from a BNP perspective this isnt that bad, short term you may get a bit of publicity but nothing different there. Long Term you are unlikely to hold the seat, if UKIP loses this seat then it would be devestating to the party and a big moral drop for its members for losing their only MP.

Also BNP did not stand in this seat last time, they are probably likely to do so now and if it means causing UKIP to lose the seat then they may put in a effort.

However May the 1st is now even more important than ever before, if UKIP fail to hold 2 seats on the GLA then it would make it look harder for them to hold Spinks seat and would also be a moral downer to their members. Also is spink loyal or an opportunist and if he sees UKIP not doing that good will he stick around?

I guess that the BNP researchers will be working on Spink now to uncover anything which should be highlighted in the interests of the tax payer like they have been doing with many other MP's and Organisations.

However from an anti-EU view I hope UKIP actually manage to throw a spanner in the works, however I dont expect much as UKIP seems to be useless.

I can't see how you can say this is not bad news for the BNP. Obviously this is going to place the BNP's predicted victories in the GLA's very much in the shade. Not that these were particularly likely to impress anyone other than the pathetically grateful members of the BNP and their hysterical detractors in the UAF. Certainly not the members of UKIP who won two GLA seats last time, five years ago. Indeed if the BNP do manage two seats they are most likely to replace the UKIP rebels, one London, and therefore will not have inflicted any additional damage on the Establishment. The BNP haven't made any advance, they have simply walked through a hole punched in the opposition line by UKIP. The only reason the BNP have any chance at all is the mess UKIP have made of their breakthroughs and its inability to face up to the immigration crisis in a meaningful way.

The BNP's disingenuous reaction to UKIP's achievement is totemic of the crude spin it places on almost every subject. Only a fool would believe that the BNP would not have given Lee Barn's balls for Spinks' name on a membership card. And yet they are claiming it as some sort of betrayal of the electorate! The contempt in which the BNP hold the electorate and most of all its own membership is one of the main reasons their wildest dream is winning 3 seats of Epping Council as major cities are cleared of indigenous Britons.

Spink might lose his seat next time out. However there is no guaterntee of this, as has already been noted. In addition to Galloway Richard Taylor in Kidderminster held his independent seat last time out. Martin Bell also demonstarted that good local campaign can get results. Small Parties control significant numbers of constituencies in the "Celtic" nations. The idea that this it is impossiblt to win Westminsters seats because of FPTP has been pedled by the incompant leadership of conservative/nationalist groups for the last three decades rather than go to the trouble of developing attractive policy platforms and adopting proffessional standards. Lets all pray that Spink can can refute this damaging defeatest theory for the good of us all.

PS congratulations UKIP and well done Mr Spink.

Brummie76

PS If the BNP had any researchers they would be working full time on how to extract more cash for Griffin and identifying any members with talent and judgement so they can be "proscribed" before they cause Collet and his pals any trouble.

mkpdavies · 22-04-2008, 04:04 PM

Thanks to you I just went and checked the NS's site out. Biggest laugh I have had in a long time!

Thanks!

arden forester · 22-04-2008, 04:08 PM

Now that he's a UKIP MP, does he inherit a fully functioning branch or will he have to start from scratch. He will need a good organisation if he is to have half a chance of keeping his seat.

mkpdavies · 22-04-2008, 04:12 PM

I will be offering my services to his team. Might get me in trouble with my new party, but I don't care.

Wowbanger TIP · 22-04-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

The Bear posted this on the closed 'Spink' thread.

The guy has Racism on the brain.

Is he a supporter of UKIP or the SWP?

What about if an MP loses his Party, should he resign then Bear? I'm thinking of a guy here, Central London constituency, big fan of milk ..... and genocidal third world dictators.

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arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,761 Party: None	Anyone out there in Castle Point? Now that he's a UKIP MP, does he inherit a fully functioning branch or will he have to start from scratch. He will need a good organisation if he is to have half a chance of keeping his seat. __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com

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22-04-2008, 02:12 PM	#71 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,323	Hartlepool: I would suspect the fourth largest party in the HOC, would either be the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) or the Scottish Nationalist Party (SNP). I'll check in Whitaker's Almanack when the spirit moves me.

22-04-2008, 02:50 PM	#73 (permalink)
blueblood1920 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,340 Party: BNP	Castle Point Council nominations APPLETON Tom Skipp * (Con) John Trollope (Lab) BOYCE Harry Brett (Lab) Ron Hurrell (UKIP) Jeffery Stanley* (Con) CANVEY CENTRAL John Anderson* (Can Ind) Dorothy Best (Con) Bill Deal (Lab) CANVEY EAST Katie Curtis (Lab) Colin MacLean (Con) Anne Wood* (Can Ind) CANVEY NORTH Carole Cross (Con) John Morgan (BNP) Jacqueline Riley (Lab) Martin Tucker* (Can Ind) CANVEY SOUTH Peter Barber (BNP) Michael Curham (Lab) Mark Howard (Con) Brian Wood* (Can Ind) CANVEY WINTER GARDENS Barry Dixie* (Can Ind) Pat Haunts (Con) Margaret McArthur-Curtis (Lab) CEDAR HALL Lorna Trollope (Lab) Liz Wass* (Con) ST GEORGE'S Joe Cook (Lab) Clive Walter (Con) ST JAMES'S Fred Jones (Lab) Nanine Pachy (Green) Bill Sharp* (Con) ST MARY'S David Cross* (Con) Scott Smith (BNP) Anthony Wright (Lab) ST PETER'S Beverley Egan* (Con) William Emberson (Lab) Eileen Peck (Green) VICTORIA Alan Curtis (Lab) Enid Issacs* (Con) Lesley Morgan (Green) Has UKIP fell apart here locally? More BNP candidates than that of UKIP which may support my view I posted before.