Conway and Spink? UKIP recruits?

arden forester · 17-04-2008, 05:33 PM

Does anyone know if Derek Conway or Bob Spink are being approached by UKIP for membership? I realise Conway would be controversial, but what of Spink? There was talk but its died down.

rjt · 17-04-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

Does anyone know if Derek Conway or Bob Spink are being approached by UKIP for membership? I realise Conway would be controversial, but what of Spink? There was talk but its died down.

Derek Conway was a government whip during Masstricht and was one of the first to speak out against IDS no doubt motivated by revenge over what happened over Masstricht. With respect I would be shocked if he joined UKIP.

You might have better luck with Spink.

Independent Working Class · 17-04-2008, 08:15 PM

UKIP trying to recruit Tory rejects? Well I never!

charlie endell · 17-04-2008, 08:34 PM

Farage dislikes Spink, but he hopes to bring him into UKIP as soon as possible after the May 1st elections. The hope is that getting a Westminster seat will blot out the bad election results that are anticipated.

Incidentally, Spink was somewhat pro-EU in the past, and he voted for Maastricht. He embraced euroscepticism only after he learned he was to be deselected.

blueblood1920 · 17-04-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie endell

Farage dislikes Spink, but he hopes to bring him into UKIP as soon as possible after the May 1st elections. The hope is that getting a Westminster seat will blot out the bad election results that are anticipated.

Incidentally, Spink was somewhat pro-EU in the past, and he voted for Maastricht. He embraced euroscepticism only after he learned he was to be deselected.

So opportunist to join opportunists, how very clever. Spink would still lose his seat if he defected to UKIP and then that may make UKIP look worse when Brown calls a general election and the results are announced.

arden forester · 18-04-2008, 12:26 AM

Sounds like Conway is beyond the pale, and Spink is seen as a possible. So there is something in the talking, then. If Spink did join UKIP, his vote at the next election would not be derisory. He probably wouldn't win, but he would be a better rallying point than some unknown. I remember George Gardiner of Reigate being deselected at he did relatively well for the Referendum Party.

Independent UKIP · 18-04-2008, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie endell

Farage dislikes Spink, but he hopes to bring him into UKIP as soon as possible after the May 1st elections. The hope is that getting a Westminster seat will blot out the bad election results that are anticipated.

Incidentally, Spink was somewhat pro-EU in the past, and he voted for Maastricht. He embraced euroscepticism only after he learned he was to be deselected.

What results are anticipated Charlie? Regardless of the results I'm sure you and others will declare them to be bad.

Does Petrina agree with your statement, "He embraced euroscepticism only after he learned he was to be deselected."?

Richard Allen · 18-04-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie endell

Farage dislikes Spink, but he hopes to bring him into UKIP as soon as possible after the May 1st elections. The hope is that getting a Westminster seat will blot out the bad election results that are anticipated.

Incidentally, Spink was somewhat pro-EU in the past, and he voted for Maastricht. He embraced euroscepticism only after he learned he was to be deselected.

Try and get your facts right Charlie you miserable little waste of space. Spink signed on with BOO long before he was deselected/lost the tory whip/resigned the tory whip.

charlie endell · 18-04-2008, 09:39 AM

Such language, Richard.

Spink's deselection crisis goes back to his first term in the 90s, even before he lost his seat in 97. All this pre-dates BOO by a long way. His embracing of 'euroscepticism' was a defensive tool to stave off deselection.

Get your own facts right Richard, before you start slinging abuse around.

arden forester · 18-04-2008, 11:57 AM

Heavens! This isn't very edifying, is it? The gist, in between the barbs, is that Spink is now a eurosceptic and is being courted now so that he can join UKIP after May 1st. Is that the basics of it?

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arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,761 Party: None	Conway and Spink? UKIP recruits? Does anyone know if Derek Conway or Bob Spink are being approached by UKIP for membership? I realise Conway would be controversial, but what of Spink? There was talk but its died down. __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com

18-04-2008, 12:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,761 Party: None	Sounds like Conway is beyond the pale, and Spink is seen as a possible. So there is something in the talking, then. If Spink did join UKIP, his vote at the next election would not be derisory. He probably wouldn't win, but he would be a better rallying point than some unknown. I remember George Gardiner of Reigate being deselected at he did relatively well for the Referendum Party. __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com

18-04-2008, 11:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,761 Party: None	Spinked up and ready to go! Heavens! This isn't very edifying, is it? The gist, in between the barbs, is that Spink is now a eurosceptic and is being courted now so that he can join UKIP after May 1st. Is that the basics of it? __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com

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charlie endell Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 249	Farage dislikes Spink, but he hopes to bring him into UKIP as soon as possible after the May 1st elections. The hope is that getting a Westminster seat will blot out the bad election results that are anticipated. Incidentally, Spink was somewhat pro-EU in the past, and he voted for Maastricht. He embraced euroscepticism only after he learned he was to be deselected.

18-04-2008, 09:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
charlie endell Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 249	Such language, Richard. Spink's deselection crisis goes back to his first term in the 90s, even before he lost his seat in 97. All this pre-dates BOO by a long way. His embracing of 'euroscepticism' was a defensive tool to stave off deselection. Get your own facts right Richard, before you start slinging abuse around.