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Old 09-04-2008, 08:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hmm. A better question might be: Should STAR only post once?
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There are NO benefits to anyone except the MEP's themselves, if all UK MEP's were UKIP they would still be an insignificent 10% of the parliament. We should ALL be consentrating getting MP's to Westminster and not wasting money and time with the Euro elections.
Legin - I'm Afraid i agree with you. Whether we have half as many MEPs as 2004 or twice as many, they cannot get us out of the EU.
The only good effect it may have if we doubled the MEPs (20-24),the electorate would hopefully have us in their thoughts for the GE in 2010.
I know it didn't happen last time, but the voters have had an additional 4 years of EU interference, it might, just might, result in us winning a seat in
the HoC if we target a suitable constituency. 1MP = 10MEPs
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Surely in politics if you haven't got a title such as MEP none of the media would bother interviewing you on anything to do with the EU! At least MEPs can with authority tell interviewees what is going on in the EU even if they have no power to stop it!
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Surely in politics if you haven't got a title such as MEP none of the media would bother interviewing you on anything to do with the EU! At least MEPs can with authority tell interviewees what is going on in the EU even if they have no power to stop it!
Quite right. - and one of the reasons the argument was won in the early days of the party to interact with the EU by standing for the EU elections and taking the seats if obtained. There was a big bust-up I believe (before my time) when certain people (Sked in particular I believe) wanted to refuse to engage with the EEC on principle - like the IRA not taking seats in Westminster. That argument was lost for many reasons - the above being one of them.

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They would, regardless, have a hard time keeping us in the EU if every British MEP was a Eurosceptic.
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Quite right. - and one of the reasons the argument was won in the early days of the party to interact with the EU by standing for the EU elections and taking the seats if obtained. There was a big bust-up I believe (before my time) when certain people (Sked in particular I believe) wanted to refuse to engage with the EEC on principle - like the IRA not taking seats in Westminster. That argument was lost for many reasons - the above being one of them.

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I don't recall a big bust up. UKIP was founded on the principle of not taking EU seats if elected. I was at the meeting when the principle changed. The two main arguments as I recall were money, and the reporting back bit.

Sunsequently it was a serious gripe in the Party that they never reported back. It was also discovered when Nigel and Jeffry Titford had to pay money back to the EU, that the money was not as plentiful as they thought.

As for the benefit of an MEP having a handle, it was a problem that the media generally only wanted to interview Nigel.
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...And not employing wives and family, don't forget that one!
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Roger Knapman said one term is enough as a UKIP MEP. Do you agree?
Looking at the published copy of his speech, what Roger Knapman actually said was that for him one term was enough. He also did say that in most parties people were allowed to make a career out of being an MEP, and that this should not happen in UKIP. And, he pointed out that we will get Britain out of the EU by what we do in the UK not in the EU.

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Was there a retraction in the Sunday Times this week?
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Legin - I'm Afraid i agree with you. Whether we have half as many MEPs as 2004 or twice as many, they cannot get us out of the EU.
The only good effect it may have if we doubled the MEPs (20-24),the electorate would hopefully have us in their thoughts for the GE in 2010.
I know it didn't happen last time, but the voters have had an additional 4 years of EU interference, it might, just might, result in us winning a seat in
the HoC if we target a suitable constituency. 1MP = 10MEPs
komerad, please do not be afraid, I am very pleased when a person agrees with me, I then know I am saying the right thing!!!
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