What really motivates Lisa Duffy

BASILDON BOY · 29-03-2008, 06:45 PM

UKIP needs career politicians - people with a proven track record of campaigning and who are media savy.

Can any of us say we are happy with some of the excuses for UKIP MEPs we have at the moment?

Anthony Butcher · 29-03-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by steve fowler

I asked Lisa this last night it not being closed down but being updated so unless you have facts to back up your claim show them cause all you have done is bad mouth Ukip and its members so far since coming on here!!.

Douglas Denny confirmed here that it was being closed down due to insufficient funds. Obviously things may have moved on since then...?

Anthony Butcher · 29-03-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Star

Lisa Duffy wants to an MEP. Nigel Farage wants her to be an MEP. In fact Mr Farage wants her to be the "lead female candidate." She was made head of Young Independence as Mr Farage wanted to raise her profile prior to the selection process. She was 'voted' onto the NEC for the same reason. Mr Farage has promised her he will do everything possible to get her on the final list.

Peter Reeve, her boyfriend and RO for the Eastern Region has been promoting her at every possible opportunity in the East. He has also been promoting Mr Campbell Bannerman for the same reason. He wants them to be the 'lead candidates in the East'.

Miss Duffy is simply using Young Independence and the NEC as a means to an end. She is a career politician who wants to get her snout in the Euro trough.

If however she does not get elected as an MEP she has been promised a well paid job working for one of the new MEPs.

I really don't see a problem with this. I had never heard of her before a few weeks ago, but presumably Farage rates her as someone with qualities suitable to become a UKIP MEP. While his criteria might differ massively from mine and yours, surely this is what he should be doing - promoting people he thinks are best for the job? As BB says, the overall quality of UKIP MEPs isn't exactly awe-inspiring, so presumably they are going to be a lot more careful about who they put on the list this time.

prober · 29-03-2008, 07:53 PM

Whats the spec for an ideal UKIP MEP ?

UKIPSW · 30-03-2008, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher
I had never heard of her before a few weeks ago

Ditto.

She seems a competent speaker in front of the camera. Friction.tv: UKIP:75% of our laws are made in Brussels.

Anthony Butcher · 30-03-2008, 10:19 AM

The extremely rapid rise of Lisa Duffy from nowhere to receiving more votes than Farage to get on the NEC and being appointed head of the youth group in a matter of weeks highlights an interesting problem that I have written about before. The party doesn't have a structure in place to provide a ladder for up and coming people. In other words, there is no way to provide experience and testing. In a well run organisation, what Lisa Duffy has done would be nigh on impossible because there would be so many other well known candidates waiting in the wings with more experience and proven abilities within the party.

I am sure that she is absolutely competent and a good choice for the roles she now has. However, although it is a good sign that they are seeking new talent, the fact that she has been brought in and promoted so swiftly indicates that there isn't a healthy system in place.

One way of finding new talent would be to have a shadow cabinet with a small team of advisors and researchers behind each appointment. This would provide up to fifty or so positions where new people could prove themselves, build up some experience, get some media training, get their names known, make some contacts and friends etc.

The fact that UKIP doesn't have this system is going to leave it in trouble when it comes to the next EU elections. They are going to need a national and regional teams of competent and motivated people to promote the campaign, but where will they find them?

tamashi · 30-03-2008, 10:21 AM

I first met her and Peter Reeve at the Candidate Conference before the 2005 General Election. They are both seem very hard working people and exactly what we need in UKIP. UKIP unfortunately could find itself a victim of its own success when the MEP Nomination process gets under way in earnest since there are UKIP winnable seats available so the stakes are much higher than 2004.

The highly parochial nature of UKIP Members almost guarantees favourite "local sons" will get selected rather than selection on merit or ability. Eastern region already has its heir apparent in place (well as far as a certain Mr Gulleyford is concerned) and anyone who might challenge that position is immediately subject to anonymous rumour and innuendo on this forum, I wonder why? The same scenario applied to DCB. There are some fairly obvious "Private - Keep out" signs being erected around various UKIP Fiefdoms at the moment!

Star · 30-03-2008, 07:40 PM

Many members in the NW were glad to see the back of both Reeve and Duffy. Duffy is not as popular in the East as she thinks. Many regard her as arrogant with an inflated opinion of herself. Farage only wants her as an MEP because she will do as she is told. It has nothing to do with talent. You should see her public speaking. Terrible! Her arrogance has also led to the resignation of more than one Young Independence member.

eublues · 30-03-2008, 07:53 PM

Main thing is that the MEP selection procedure is, and is seen to be, scrupulously fair. Christopher Gill is supposed to be over-seeing it Hope he takes a firm grip on it.

Star · 30-03-2008, 09:34 PM

That will not happen. Farage wants Duffy. All it will take from from him is a 'quiet word' in Mr Gill's ear to ensure that Duffy gets through.

If I were an MEP candidate in the East I would keep a very close eye on how the members 'vote.' The East has just over 1700 members. No doubt Ms Duffy will get that and a few more for good measure just like the NEC election!

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BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,679	UKIP needs career politicians - people with a proven track record of campaigning and who are media savy. Can any of us say we are happy with some of the excuses for UKIP MEPs we have at the moment? __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

30-03-2008, 10:19 AM	#16 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,431 Party: None	The extremely rapid rise of Lisa Duffy from nowhere to receiving more votes than Farage to get on the NEC and being appointed head of the youth group in a matter of weeks highlights an interesting problem that I have written about before. The party doesn't have a structure in place to provide a ladder for up and coming people. In other words, there is no way to provide experience and testing. In a well run organisation, what Lisa Duffy has done would be nigh on impossible because there would be so many other well known candidates waiting in the wings with more experience and proven abilities within the party. I am sure that she is absolutely competent and a good choice for the roles she now has. However, although it is a good sign that they are seeking new talent, the fact that she has been brought in and promoted so swiftly indicates that there isn't a healthy system in place. One way of finding new talent would be to have a shadow cabinet with a small team of advisors and researchers behind each appointment. This would provide up to fifty or so positions where new people could prove themselves, build up some experience, get some media training, get their names known, make some contacts and friends etc. The fact that UKIP doesn't have this system is going to leave it in trouble when it comes to the next EU elections. They are going to need a national and regional teams of competent and motivated people to promote the campaign, but where will they find them? __________________ If you care about what's in your food and where it comes from, then get it labelled! Label My Food - http://www.labelmyfood.org.uk

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eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,925	Main thing is that the MEP selection procedure is, and is seen to be, scrupulously fair. Christopher Gill is supposed to be over-seeing it Hope he takes a firm grip on it. Last edited by eublues; 30-03-2008 at 08:01 PM.

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prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 801	Whats the spec for an ideal UKIP MEP ?

30-03-2008, 10:21 AM	#17 (permalink)
tamashi Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 494	I first met her and Peter Reeve at the Candidate Conference before the 2005 General Election. They are both seem very hard working people and exactly what we need in UKIP. UKIP unfortunately could find itself a victim of its own success when the MEP Nomination process gets under way in earnest since there are UKIP winnable seats available so the stakes are much higher than 2004. The highly parochial nature of UKIP Members almost guarantees favourite "local sons" will get selected rather than selection on merit or ability. Eastern region already has its heir apparent in place (well as far as a certain Mr Gulleyford is concerned) and anyone who might challenge that position is immediately subject to anonymous rumour and innuendo on this forum, I wonder why? The same scenario applied to DCB. There are some fairly obvious "Private - Keep out" signs being erected around various UKIP Fiefdoms at the moment!

30-03-2008, 07:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
Star Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Beds Posts: 87	Many members in the NW were glad to see the back of both Reeve and Duffy. Duffy is not as popular in the East as she thinks. Many regard her as arrogant with an inflated opinion of herself. Farage only wants her as an MEP because she will do as she is told. It has nothing to do with talent. You should see her public speaking. Terrible! Her arrogance has also led to the resignation of more than one Young Independence member.

30-03-2008, 09:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
Star Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Beds Posts: 87	That will not happen. Farage wants Duffy. All it will take from from him is a 'quiet word' in Mr Gill's ear to ensure that Duffy gets through. If I were an MEP candidate in the East I would keep a very close eye on how the members 'vote.' The East has just over 1700 members. No doubt Ms Duffy will get that and a few more for good measure just like the NEC election!