Independent UKIP

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There are only 9 candidates left on the list. I don't suppose anyone has the answer but what on earth is going on here?

Kevin Hall and Councillor David Pickles have disappeared from the list and the existing order has been rearranged so that for example John Bailey appears below Mick Greenhough despite him previously being above Mick on the list and to my understanding receiving more votes than Mick in the ballot of London members. That is not the only change in the apparent order.

This is at the very best highly amateurish.

steve fowler

Hhhhhmmmm what indeed????.

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Anthony Butcher

Is Mick McGough the same person as Michael McGough who posts regularly on this forum?

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UKIP is fielding a full list of candidates for the London Assembly elections. The eleven people on this list were selected by a poll of all the UKIP London members.

I see what you mean - it says that there should be eleven, but lists only nine. Perhaps the leadership didn't like the look of the list members? The danger of voting for lists like this, especially from such a small voting base as London UKIP, is that you can end up with people less than desirable popping up.

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In 2004 UKIP had two members elected to the Assembly and we anticipate building on that success.

Either that is a stinker of a propaganda lie or they are completely deluded. There is no chance in hell of UKIP building on a score of 2. I am not sure of the percentage required to get three or more members elected, but it is far more than the 0-3% UKIP is currently polling.

Why do politicians set themselves up such unrealistic goals? Keeping one seat should be seen as an achievement, given the very different political landscape, and even that looks unlikely just based on the pure numbers at the moment.

I, for one, would have a lot more respect for an organisation that is realistic and competent in its predictions (no problem with being positive), but it hardly says that they are a competent group if they are so wide of the mark, does it? Would you trust such people to make economic predictions for projects in London, for example?

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steve fowler

I agree Anthony ive got a bad feeling about this election for UKIP and i will be suprised if we do even get one seat.

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Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.
Winston Churchill.

When Labour won the 1997 General Election, Enoch Powell told his wife that the electorate had voted to break up the United Kingdom.

Independent UKIP

The same Mick McGough who used to post on this forum, yes.

I can't see that the leadership would object to either Hall or Pickles. There must be another explanation. Hall has issues as Barboo reported here but that didn't stop him being in one of the top placings after said issues were publicly known. Pickles as still the only UKIP Councillor in London is another matter. I trust he will now be the constituency candidate for Sutton area, if not his priorities are clearly not with us.

Anthony Butcher

No, he is a regular poster here, just under a different name.

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TomPhil

I don't think that there is a precise percentage - it would depend on how other parties perform, I believe, but there is a 5% threshold to get any seats. UKIP got 10% of the vote at the last election and 2 seats, so I'm presuming the figure for three seats would be about 15%.

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Anthony Butcher

That sounds in the right region. I think that someone else here quoted 6% for the first seat.

The problem is that UKIP doesn't have any of the advantages it had last time. People were voting on the EU issue at the same time, UKIP was high in the media, it was the new protest vote and Kilroy's presence added a media sparkle and interest to everything. This time it is just UKIP trying to promote a London agenda, the same as every other party... and they have been at it for the last four years.

For whatever reason, UKIP lost, and failed to retrieve, their two elected officials, so UKIP has essentially done nothing with the previous votes that people gave them.

Obviously national politics is ever present, as it always is in local elections, and UKIP really isn't high in the polls. Yet again, I expect to see voters using the Tories to give Gordon and Labour a kicking.

It doesn't bode well, and anyone who thinks that UKIP is going to get 15+% needs their head examined. I think that it would have been best to say nothing about expected votes on the UKIP site. Leave the silly mind games to the other parties who are much better at it and concentrate on the policies I say.

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kernow

Other than facial disfigurement I never know why any man would want to grow a beard! I would never vote for anybody who had a beard! Beards remind of the teaching profession and the "Arty farts. I'm sure a lot of the young grow beards just to prove they're old enough to shave! Beards and long hair in male politicians, it wasn't good in the seventies, but in 2008, no thanks! So that leaves seven!

Anthony Butcher

And I thought that you were a fan of Michael McGough? He is certainly a 'loyalist'.

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