United Kingdom Independence party accused of diverting EU allowances - Page 3

Mark Croucher · 24-02-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If the story is true, then it is game over UKIP. There will be no credibility left and the party bet all its chips on Farage.

If it is false though, then Farage could make himself a tidy sum of wedge and probably get some publicity in the process.

The story is not true.

Rgds

M

steve fowler · 24-02-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Croucher

The story is not true.

Rgds

M

Lets hope you are right Mark?.

tamashi · 24-02-2008, 12:01 AM

I find this both quite hilarious and very sad at the same time. Look back over posts on this forum and there are endless demands that MEP's use their allowances to fund party work in the UK. The fact that the MEP's have always refused to do this because it wasn't allowed under EU Rules has been criticised more than once as just an excuse by the MEP's.

Now allegations are being made regarding MEP's illegally funding party workers the same people who demanded MEP's do exactly that are now the first to condemn the practise.

Unfortunately people are always willing to believe bad news and to spread it far and wide and people on this forum loose no opportunity to chip away at UKIP.

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tamashi

I find this both quite hilarious and very sad at the same time. Look back over posts on this forum and there are endless demands that MEP's use their allowances to fund party work in the UK.

I don't think that anyone has seriously suggested that here because it is illegal. I think that you are imagining such demands.

Some people have suggested (not me) that MEPs should donate a portion of their salaries to the party to help with funding, but that is entirely different to illegally using expenses.

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Croucher

The story is not true.

Which bit? How can the entire story not be true? You don't think it is a tad odd not to clarify which statements you are claiming not to be true?

Is this a press officer trick? A flat denial to minimise damage?

By all means issue corrections to the article; but just stating that it isn't true is crazy.

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2008, 12:12 AM

I think that it is highly unlikely that Foggo has invented the claim that Farage hires his son and wife (we already know that one to be true).

To hire one invites criticism, to hire both is a PR disaster waiting to happen, regardless of whether it can be demostrated that they fulfill the mimimum amount of work.

One would also question whether his son's salary (not provided) could be better spent on a professional researcher, rather than a part-time student. I assume here that he is hired on a full time salary, which may not be the case.

Mark Croucher · 24-02-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

Which bit? How can the entire story not be true? You don't think it is a tad odd not to clarify which statements you are claiming not to be true?

Is this a press officer trick? A flat denial to minimise damage?

By all means issue corrections to the article; but just stating that it isn't true is crazy.

You seen to forget that I'm a pub landlord. I'm sure that the UKIP Press Office will issue a full statement tomorrow. I know you want bits of it to be true, but they're not.

M

PS your subsequent post is perpetuating a libel. I'd remove it.

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2008, 12:28 AM

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However, leaked e-mails reveal that Farage and his colleagues have failed to provide the EU with requested information about how it gives its regional organisers in Britain jobs as MEPs’ assistants so that their salaries can be paid from public funds.

It is going to be particularly hard to explain why Roger Knapman (South West) needs a full time 'political advisor' in Wales. I believe one of the northern ROs is also employed by an MEP from a different region.

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Croucher

I know you want bits of it to be true, but they're not.

So Farage doesn't employ his wife then?
UKIP covered up embezzler’s trail - Times Online

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It has also emerged that for nearly a year Farage has been employing his German wife Kirsten as his personal assistant. She is paid £2,200 a month to act as Farage’s secretary from their home in Kent.
Farage, who employs three other staff with his EU allowance, said his wife had replaced a personal assistant. “I need significant secretarial help at home,” he said.

Hmmm. That's from a year ago. Are you saying that this bit isn't true?

Why are you being so cryptic? You clearly claim to have some inside information on this, yet seem unwilling to issue corrections to specific details to help readers get a clearer picture.

Mark Croucher · 24-02-2008, 12:53 AM

Whatever....

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24-02-2008, 12:01 AM	#23 (permalink)
tamashi Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 450	I find this both quite hilarious and very sad at the same time. Look back over posts on this forum and there are endless demands that MEP's use their allowances to fund party work in the UK. The fact that the MEP's have always refused to do this because it wasn't allowed under EU Rules has been criticised more than once as just an excuse by the MEP's. Now allegations are being made regarding MEP's illegally funding party workers the same people who demanded MEP's do exactly that are now the first to condemn the practise. Unfortunately people are always willing to believe bad news and to spread it far and wide and people on this forum loose no opportunity to chip away at UKIP.

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Mark Croucher Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Two Brewers, Dartford & The Priory Tavern, Orpington Posts: 726	Whatever....