Common Purpose

Little Englander (sour) · 06-03-2008, 06:24 PM

And, there you have it.

Ea of Dune · 06-03-2008, 06:25 PM

Basildon Boy> Ignoring Brian Gerrish and some of the nut jobs out there etc. do you not agree though that the ten of thousands being spent on Common Purpose who are offering courses on diversity and other rubbish is a total waste of our Tax money when we have hundreds of other pressing needs i.e. military equipment?

Ea of dune

BASILDON BOY · 06-03-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune

Basildon Boy> Ignoring Brian Gerrish and some of the nut jobs out there etc. do you not agree though that the ten of thousands being spent on Common Purpose who are offering courses on diversity and other rubbish is a total waste of our Tax money when we have hundreds of other pressing needs i.e. military equipment?

Ea of dune

As someone who has to go on pointless courses - yes it is rubbish - it is also the tip of the iceberg...

Common Purpose is just one training organisation - use the Freedom of Information Act to find out how much your local council, hospital, police forse, fire brigade etc etc spend on staff training using outside individuals and companies.

Ea of Dune · 06-03-2008, 06:35 PM

Oh I'm not suggesting for one moment they aren't the only ones. The number of quango's etc. we have is a total joke and needs to be severly cut back.

Thankfully being a contractor I get out of doing all the silly training programs and "e-learning" courses that most companies force their employee's through.

Ea of dune

Mikeuk · 07-03-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fotley

DEMOS - IPPR - COMMON PURPOSE - JOSEPH ROWNTREE TRUST - GUARDIANISTAS - ETC ETC

Enemy Class –

The Enemy Class exists in and around the public sector. It comprises the great majority of those administrators, lawyers, experts, educators and media people whose living is connected with the State.

They articulate and advance the interests of perhaps a million other people—from television producers and heads of executive agencies, down through the university lecturers and social workers and white collar bureaucrats, to the lowest grades of civil servant and local government officer.

Add to the list all the racism awareness and anti-aids consultants and the workers in those non-government organisations that receive money and status from or via the State. They can require not only external conformity to their will, but can even to some extent shape the public mind so that conformity seems right and natural. They provide the boundaries and language of debate. They define the heretics and schismatics, and arrange for them to be persecuted.

Its main justifications at the moment—its main legitimising ideologies—are political correctness and multiculturalism. These are still occasionally dressed in liberal clothing, and, as with any legitimising ideology, are sincerely believed by much of the Enemy Class. Nevertheless, the effect of their public acceptance is further empowerment of the Enemy Class.

The administration of this country should not be regarded as a neutral machine, to be directed as the elected politicians please. It is instead best seen as a web of people and institutions. There are the civil servants. There are the public sector educators. There are the semi-autonomous agencies funded by the tax payers. There are journalists and other communicators.

There are certain formally private media and entertainment and legal and business interests that obtain power, status and income from the policies of government. Together, these are the true government of this country. The elected politicians are not unimportant parts of the administrative web. But they are required to work within limitations imposed by the web as a whole. These limitations are set by the ideas that hold the various parts of the web together.

This is a Gramscian project carried out by Gramscians. These people spent their younger years reading and thinking about ideological hegemony, and they are now, in their middle years, trying to achieve it. The function of ideological hegemony is to legitimise the power and status of the ruling élites in a society, and to marginalise dissent where it cannot altogether be prevented. It supplements—or can even entirely replace—the more overt forms of repression.

The old socialists were notoriously vague about their final utopia, but this did not stop them from producing mountains of dead bodies wherever they took power. We may doubt if the present generation of socialists are sincere when they talk about justice, peace and good will between all people. But we can have no doubt of their immediate end. This is the destruction of the old social and political order—the overturning of its traditions and norms, its standards and laws, its history and heroes. Every autonomous institution, every set of historical associations, every pattern of loyalty that they cannot control—these they want to destroy or neutralise.Sean Gabb – Libertarian Alliance

'Enemy Class' is good. I'm increasingly using that phrase to describe the scum - Gramscian scum indeed - who have hi-jacked our nation.

But let's not wander off into flights of fantasy about 'Common Purpose'.

Common Purpose is merely a tool used by the Enemy Class and should be highlighted as such. It is not a conspiracy in itself.

fotley · 07-03-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

'Enemy Class' is good. I'm increasingly using that phrase to describe the scum - Gramscian scum indeed - who have hi-jacked our nation.

But let's not wander off into flights of fantasy about 'Common Purpose'.

Common Purpose is merely a tool used by the Enemy Class and should be highlighted as such. It is not a conspiracy in itself.

Mike I could not have put it better myself.
CP have been in existence for nearly 18 years working below the radar, that is until recently when many people have used the freedom of information act to uncover what they are up to in terms of rolling out their phoney "cultural projects" and the massive amount of help they get by public servants at taxpayers expense.

In an article about CP & Demos back in 2001 William Clark thinks -

The ulterior motive of 'corporate community engagement' is to pirate money from government social management infrastructures which will in the long term eventually abrogates responsibility for social policy to large financial concerns.4 A great deal of this has been rationalised by think tanks as part of a 'Third way' approach. As we will see later the people who run them are becoming adept at obtaining government money through phoney cultural projects.

Fire brigade 'discriminating against white men' - Telegraph

Fire brigade 'discriminating against white men'

Do you think it's a coincidence that all of the management team at Avon Fire & Rescue had recently completed Common Purpose courses ?

Heres the evidence
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

(you need excel to read it)

These people were selected to attend these courses by the Common Purpose Bristol Advisory Board.

They select the candidates and raise awareness (promote) Common Purpose in their own organisations. Send theit own staff on CP courses and help Common Purpose to achieve their aims, all at taxpayers expense (the majority of CPs turnover comes from the public sector)

Mikeuk · 07-03-2008, 09:50 AM

One of the problems is that many people are very easily brainwashed by these courses. My friends in the Met have had plenty to say on this score, especially regarding people like Commander John Grieve, former head of the anti-terrorist branch, who turned PC overnight.

Very often the most extreme PC 'converts' were previously known for racist jokes and a generally non-PC attitude, but they were persuaded that this would not help their careers.

A senior London fireman once told me that the very same top-ranking officer who once told colleagues to 'give the w*g a hard time' when an ethnic minority recruit arrived, was a few years later preaching hellfire and damnation about racism.

So let's spread the news about the utterly foul CP by all means but let's curb this Bilderberg/Lizards/Illuminati style talk which is a turn-off for normal people.

david H · 07-03-2008, 12:42 PM

It was mentioned once and in Kenneth Clarke's expenses claim. I will look for it.

Ea of Dune · 07-03-2008, 12:47 PM

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So let's spread the news about the utterly foul CP by all means but let's curb this Bilderberg/Lizards/Illuminati style talk which is a turn-off for normal people.

Agreed, the problem is as soon as anything like CP gets mentioned/uncovered, some of the nutters jump on board. None of us have any control what gets written in blogs etc. so as I stated before this often muddies the water, and people no longer approach it objectivly, they just say "conspiracy nonsense" etc.

I'd hate to think how much money has been spent over 18 years on this rubbish. It must be a disgusting amount.

Ea of dune

twizzel · 07-03-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gimlet

Yes we should, they appear to be in most of the key positions in local government.

not to mention the police and armed forces

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Little Englander (sour) Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 926 Party: English Democrats	And, there you have it. __________________ Little Englander (bigoted)

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david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,414	It was mentioned once and in Kenneth Clarke's expenses claim. I will look for it. __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

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06-03-2008, 06:25 PM	#162 (permalink)
Ea of Dune Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 1,049	Basildon Boy> Ignoring Brian Gerrish and some of the nut jobs out there etc. do you not agree though that the ten of thousands being spent on Common Purpose who are offering courses on diversity and other rubbish is a total waste of our Tax money when we have hundreds of other pressing needs i.e. military equipment? Ea of dune

06-03-2008, 06:35 PM	#164 (permalink)
Ea of Dune Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 1,049	Oh I'm not suggesting for one moment they aren't the only ones. The number of quango's etc. we have is a total joke and needs to be severly cut back. Thankfully being a contractor I get out of doing all the silly training programs and "e-learning" courses that most companies force their employee's through. Ea of dune

07-03-2008, 09:50 AM	#167 (permalink)
Mikeuk Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fareham Posts: 5,661 Party: Conservatives	One of the problems is that many people are very easily brainwashed by these courses. My friends in the Met have had plenty to say on this score, especially regarding people like Commander John Grieve, former head of the anti-terrorist branch, who turned PC overnight. Very often the most extreme PC 'converts' were previously known for racist jokes and a generally non-PC attitude, but they were persuaded that this would not help their careers. A senior London fireman once told me that the very same top-ranking officer who once told colleagues to 'give the w*g a hard time' when an ethnic minority recruit arrived, was a few years later preaching hellfire and damnation about racism. So let's spread the news about the utterly foul CP by all means but let's curb this Bilderberg/Lizards/Illuminati style talk which is a turn-off for normal people.