UKIPPER charged with raping three young boys

UKIPSW · 03-02-2008, 01:44 PM

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A former butler to the Queen was in jail last night after being charged with raping three young boys.

Paul Kidd, 54 - who knew Princess Diana well - allegedly carried out some of the sex attacks while rubbing shoulders with Royals as a trusted Palace servant.

He was arrested in London after a three-month probe and taken for questioning at Ashton-Under-Lyne police station, Manchester.

Kidd faces allegations of raping and molesting the boys, aged 11 to 16, and photographing some of them.

The former flunky, who worked for the Royals between 1975 and 1984, was remanded in custody by Tameside magistrates yesterday.

Kidd, of Stalybridge, Cheshire, faces 18 charges - nine of rape, four of gross indecency and five of sexual assault. Police acted after a man of 41 recognised Kidd from the media and alleged that he was molested by him in 1981.

Officers have also seized a computer containing more than 1,000 images of child porn.

A senior police source said last night: "This man was a senior royal butler.

"The alleged offences go back three decades to when he was working for the Queen. Police may want to question members of the royal household."

Kidd was the Queen's personal butler for four years from 1976 and was then senior footman to the Queen Mother. He knew Di's butler Paul Burrell.

Kidd has been seeking £2,000 to £4,000 a time for speaking engagements and stood as a candidate for the UK Independence Party at last year's local elections.

People.co.uk - QUEEN'S BUTLER ON 9 RAPE CHARGES

Please, somebody tell me this vile pervert has already been expelled.

Aardvark · 03-02-2008, 01:50 PM

Doesn't look good.

Guilty?

Charged not tried.

Suspension was used on Mote before he was convicted so I would guess the same rules apply.

If he is guilty then throw away the key.

steve fowler · 03-02-2008, 01:51 PM

If guilty then kick him out!.

kernow · 03-02-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

If he is guilty then throw away the key.

Better still let him become a "little Pile of Ash"

cookie65 · 03-02-2008, 02:42 PM

Paul Kidd was very well known in Stalybridge, he was well liked and respected. He did an enormous amount of charity work.
He stood in last years elections, coming third with 9.8% of the vote, stopping the Tories in their second target ward.
Nobody in our branch had any idea or suspicions of what has now been alleged. He had already excused himself as a candidate this year on the grounds of ill health.
He is innocent until proven guilty, although I agree it does not look good.
I have already had a reporter from the Manchester evening news on so we are preparing ourselves for a welter of bad publicity in the local press.
This is terrible news for our branch and the party in general.

Aardvark · 03-02-2008, 03:05 PM

Other political parties are in the same situation as are various churches.

My mum, a Tory councillor, used to give a lift to meetings to a bloke who was a pillar of the Baptist church and the local Tories. She was amazed when he got sent down. Here in Oxon a leading LibDem, who opposed my campaign to reopen the local railway, went the same way after kiddie porn was discovered on his PC. The RC church actually moved a known paedophile priest to Banbury. My former maths/Sunday School teacher was done for photographing naked school boys. One of my junior school teachers disappeared and had allegedly paid another boy to fondle his bits.

Famous people - Pete Townsend, Chris Langham, Gary Glitter etc - are as likely to be caught with kiddie porn on their computers as the less well known.

There is little any of us can do to protect ourselves from becoming acquainted with these people. They exist in all walks of society and it is no more UKIP's fault than it is the fault of the RC church or the LibDems (remember family man Oaten). The guy will have to be disowned as would anyone else in any other walk of life who gets caught in this murky pastime.

If he is guilty I feel sorry for those in UKIP and elsewhere who have trusted him over the years. The press will often go for trial by association even though some of them are no angels themselves.

cookie65 · 03-02-2008, 03:30 PM

Thanks Aardvark,

We are feeling quite down at the moment, We were out canvassing for a VERY hard working candidate, who has a by election on Thursday, What effect will this have on his vote share? We have noted this has even been reported in Australian Newspapers.

mkpdavies · 03-02-2008, 07:22 PM

I still hate it that they can report this, before a conviction.

If you can't trust the Queens butler, who can you trust?

g hall · 03-02-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I still hate it that they can report this, before a conviction.

If you can't trust the Queens butler, who can you trust?

Too early to say "The butler did it"

Innocent until proved guilty but even if found innocent mud sticks

Anthony Butcher · 03-02-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I still hate it that they can report this, before a conviction.

Yup, it's an absolute disgrace. Innocent until proven guilty... except that everyone he knows will think that he is a paedophile in the mean time, and probably for ever after, even if he is found innocent.

If found guilty, he should never be let out. Ever.

03-02-2008, 01:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 4,256	Doesn't look good. Guilty? Charged not tried. Suspension was used on Mote before he was convicted so I would guess the same rules apply. If he is guilty then throw away the key. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

03-02-2008, 03:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 4,256	Other political parties are in the same situation as are various churches. My mum, a Tory councillor, used to give a lift to meetings to a bloke who was a pillar of the Baptist church and the local Tories. She was amazed when he got sent down. Here in Oxon a leading LibDem, who opposed my campaign to reopen the local railway, went the same way after kiddie porn was discovered on his PC. The RC church actually moved a known paedophile priest to Banbury. My former maths/Sunday School teacher was done for photographing naked school boys. One of my junior school teachers disappeared and had allegedly paid another boy to fondle his bits. Famous people - Pete Townsend, Chris Langham, Gary Glitter etc - are as likely to be caught with kiddie porn on their computers as the less well known. There is little any of us can do to protect ourselves from becoming acquainted with these people. They exist in all walks of society and it is no more UKIP's fault than it is the fault of the RC church or the LibDems (remember family man Oaten). The guy will have to be disowned as would anyone else in any other walk of life who gets caught in this murky pastime. If he is guilty I feel sorry for those in UKIP and elsewhere who have trusted him over the years. The press will often go for trial by association even though some of them are no angels themselves. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

03-02-2008, 07:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	I still hate it that they can report this, before a conviction. If you can't trust the Queens butler, who can you trust? __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,201 Party: None	If guilty then kick him out!.

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cookie65 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: hyde cheshire Posts: 648	Paul Kidd was very well known in Stalybridge, he was well liked and respected. He did an enormous amount of charity work. He stood in last years elections, coming third with 9.8% of the vote, stopping the Tories in their second target ward. Nobody in our branch had any idea or suspicions of what has now been alleged. He had already excused himself as a candidate this year on the grounds of ill health. He is innocent until proven guilty, although I agree it does not look good. I have already had a reporter from the Manchester evening news on so we are preparing ourselves for a welter of bad publicity in the local press. This is terrible news for our branch and the party in general.

03-02-2008, 03:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
cookie65 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: hyde cheshire Posts: 648	Thanks Aardvark, We are feeling quite down at the moment, We were out canvassing for a VERY hard working candidate, who has a by election on Thursday, What effect will this have on his vote share? We have noted this has even been reported in Australian Newspapers.