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Old 28-01-2008, 09:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Nobody's saying anything of the sort. The UKIP 'protest vote' can come from anywhere, largely dependent on the social profile of the constituency.

I'm talking about councillors, not voters. Jumping ship from the Tories to UKIP is no big deal ideologically because both parties are - nominally at any rate - Eurosceptic, free-market and so forth.

Mail all the Labour and Lib-Dem councillors by all means but the Tories are likely to yield the bigest harvest. Of course there may be a principled few who have had it up to here with Cameron etc but UKIP needs to be more Machievellian than that...

Right now there are Tory Councillors fed up with the party because: they've been deselected; someone else got the plum committee chairmanship; someone else became Mayor; the party didn't back some cherished local project; their wives have been playing away from home with other Tories; somebody didn't show the right respect etc

Don't ask question. Grab them and grab the headlines.
Exactly. Too many people in UKIP don't want to get into the dirty side of politics. It might be a worthy ideal but it is one that prevents any chance of political growth.
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Old 28-01-2008, 09:52 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Which is why im growing some balls and standing as a candidate as someone has to do it or we WILL! not get any where as you say Richard!.
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Which is why im growing some balls and standing as a candidate as someone has to do it or we WILL! not get any where as you say Richard!.
You'd probably be better off losing the balls these days. Prositive discrimination and all.
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To hell with that Matt but i see what you mean
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