Impermissible donations

tamashi · 25-11-2007, 06:03 PM

Given the Electoral Commission's vigorous pursuit of UKIP over the Alan Bown donations surely they must be looking closely at a story in the Sunday Newspapers money has been donated to the Labour Party in the name of people who know nothing about it.

Surely such money must be impermissible donations as their source cannot be verified and so forfeit to the Treasury?

I hope the UKIP Leadership are pointing this out to the Commission!

Populist Lee · 25-11-2007, 06:08 PM

It will be interesting to see if the Tory Party takes up this one.

gc · 25-11-2007, 08:26 PM

I suspect the Tories won't touch this one. Glass houses and all that.

Anthony Butcher · 25-11-2007, 11:04 PM

Good spot tamashi.

Labour faces inquiry over party donations - Telegraph

Quote:

The Electoral Commission has asked Labour to explain how David Abrahams was able to give almost £400,000 to the party without his name appearing on its register of donors as the law requires.

Isca · 25-11-2007, 11:06 PM

talking of which, i notice ElCom press release says Conservatives handed over £7400

The Electoral Commission : Media centre : News releases: donations

Little Englander (sour) · 26-11-2007, 10:27 AM

If the "agents", through whom he paid these donations to the Labour party, knew the name of the donor and knew that the money was specifically a political donation they were/are required, by law, to name the donor. Labour therefor will find it hard to wriggle out of this, but they will.

g hall · 26-11-2007, 02:40 PM

I suspect that the Electoral Commission will find a way of helping the NuLab party to keep the dosh while still pursuing the UKIP donation

tamashi · 26-11-2007, 03:32 PM

If someone gave me a few thousand pounds I would need to declare it's receipt on my income tax form and almost certainly need to pay tax on it as "unearned income"

Similarly if i gave away a few thousand quid I think there are quite strict rules about how much I can give and to whom before I would need to declare it on my income tax form as a capital transfer. The rules on avoidance of Inheritance tax for example taking a very dim view of people who "give away" huge sums for up to seven years prior to their death.

I wonder if Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs are onto this one?

Alex McKee · 26-11-2007, 10:44 PM

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Britannist · 26-11-2007, 10:49 PM

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25-11-2007, 06:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
tamashi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 519	Impermissible donations Given the Electoral Commission's vigorous pursuit of UKIP over the Alan Bown donations surely they must be looking closely at a story in the Sunday Newspapers money has been donated to the Labour Party in the name of people who know nothing about it. Surely such money must be impermissible donations as their source cannot be verified and so forfeit to the Treasury? I hope the UKIP Leadership are pointing this out to the Commission!

25-11-2007, 06:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Populist Lee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,911 Party: Other	It will be interesting to see if the Tory Party takes up this one. __________________ ENGLISH POPULISM Stands as the only obstacle in the path of the Plutocrats who seek to reduce all the Peoples of the World to Economic and Political Slavery under Globalism POPULISM MEANS WHAT YOU WANT IS WHAT YOU GET

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25-11-2007, 08:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
gc Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 463	I suspect the Tories won't touch this one. Glass houses and all that.

25-11-2007, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Isca Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2	talking of which, i notice ElCom press release says Conservatives handed over £7400 The Electoral Commission : Media centre : News releases: donations

26-11-2007, 10:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Little Englander (sour) Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 765 Party: English Democrats	If the "agents", through whom he paid these donations to the Labour party, knew the name of the donor and knew that the money was specifically a political donation they were/are required, by law, to name the donor. Labour therefor will find it hard to wriggle out of this, but they will.

26-11-2007, 03:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
tamashi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 519	If someone gave me a few thousand pounds I would need to declare it's receipt on my income tax form and almost certainly need to pay tax on it as "unearned income" Similarly if i gave away a few thousand quid I think there are quite strict rules about how much I can give and to whom before I would need to declare it on my income tax form as a capital transfer. The rules on avoidance of Inheritance tax for example taking a very dim view of people who "give away" huge sums for up to seven years prior to their death. I wonder if Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs are onto this one?

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Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,635	Welcome to the forum, Isca