Tom Wise taken ill

Anthony Butcher · 20-11-2007, 06:58 PM

More on what I was saying about the internal 'investigation':
UKIP covered up embezzler’s trail - Times Online

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THE UK Independence party deliberately covered up the fact that one of its MEPs embezzled tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ money by pretending to be someone else.
An internal inquiry into the practices of Tom Wise, its MEP for the east of England, was silenced after the former senior policeman running it found evidence of serious wrongdoing.

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Last week, Wise, who is now being investigated by Olaf, the EU’s antifraud office, had the whip removed by his party after he admitted he had used £6,500 of the money to buy a car... The green Peugeot 406, which Wise still drives, was bought in January 2005. He is refusing to tell party chiefs how he spent another £13,000 of the embezzled money.

I note that most of the NEC members who, wrongly, voted to stop the investigation are still on the NEC and most of those who voted for to continue it, rightly, have since resigned from the party.

Alex McKee · 20-11-2007, 07:16 PM

I hope Tom recovers. I don't wish illness on anyone, regardless of how they may have treated their position.

Millennium3 · 20-11-2007, 07:58 PM

Seconded. We had a shouting match at a speech he was giving on AGW, afterwards we had a great chuckle in the bar over the matter. I found him very good [pub] company.

douglas denny · 22-11-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Petrina

I have now heard from a number of sources that Tom Wise was taken to hospital from the EU Parliament recently .I understand that he is improving and likely to be released in the not too distant future .

Might this be an appropriate moment for him to reassess his tenure as an MEP and leave the way open for Robin Page ?After all the EU Parl. inquiry has not issued a finding and it looks like they are likely to leave him dangling on the hook for some time to come.Inquiries in this country are still pending .

His continued tenure as a British Eurosceptic MEP is simply a hostage to fortune .

That's it Petrina - get in there! - kick a man when he's down!
Nice style!

DED.

Petrina · 23-11-2007, 08:57 AM

If Douglas Denny hadn`t blocked attempts to have a proper inquiry into this matter by the disciplinary committee at an early stage and if the NEC hadn`t stopped the NEC inquiry into TW then we would not be looking for an appropriate moment for TW to walk away from politics .It is because UKIP deliberately missed its chance to get closure on this topic that we are in this position .

I wouldn`t be at all surprised to find that TW agrees with my sentiments about leaving .Luckily for his health it looks as if the reports exaggerated the
perilous state of his health.For his sake I am pleased ,but some formula should be found whereby he returns to his previous obscurity for the sake of UKIP.

Aardvark · 23-11-2007, 09:09 AM

Judging by the 0% in a recent opinion poll we in UKIP will be in collective obscurity long before the MEPs lose their seats.

douglas denny · 23-11-2007, 10:56 AM

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quote Petrina: If Douglas Denny hadn`t blocked attempts to have a proper inquiry into this matter by the disciplinary committee at an early stage and if the NEC hadn`t stopped the NEC inquiry ......

Rubbish as usual from the ex- Criminal Protection Service lawyer.

Since when has a disciplinary committee ever been convened with no substantive documentary evidence?

And why are you kicking Tom Wise? - is it another effort to bring it to the forefront like your friend Greg Watkins constantly tries to do? Did Greg Watkins put you up to this? It has his fingerprints all over it.

DED.

Wolfie Smith · 23-11-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfie Smith

I understand somebody else wanted to access that money... wanted it as a 'salary'....

Somebody went a bit quiet after that one, I notice....

PETWINA · 23-11-2007, 01:34 PM

I expect the Chairman of the grass roots party will be paid.

Wolfie Smith · 23-11-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PETWINA

I expect the Chairman of the grass roots party will be paid.

You got it!

I wonder if the good folk on this forum might like us to elaborate?

I bet they would!

23-11-2007, 09:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
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20-11-2007, 07:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,621	I hope Tom recovers. I don't wish illness on anyone, regardless of how they may have treated their position.

20-11-2007, 07:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 3,873	Seconded. We had a shouting match at a speech he was giving on AGW, afterwards we had a great chuckle in the bar over the matter. I found him very good [pub] company.

23-11-2007, 08:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
Petrina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sussex Posts: 942	If Douglas Denny hadn`t blocked attempts to have a proper inquiry into this matter by the disciplinary committee at an early stage and if the NEC hadn`t stopped the NEC inquiry into TW then we would not be looking for an appropriate moment for TW to walk away from politics .It is because UKIP deliberately missed its chance to get closure on this topic that we are in this position . I wouldn`t be at all surprised to find that TW agrees with my sentiments about leaving .Luckily for his health it looks as if the reports exaggerated the perilous state of his health.For his sake I am pleased ,but some formula should be found whereby he returns to his previous obscurity for the sake of UKIP.

23-11-2007, 01:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
PETWINA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 155	I expect the Chairman of the grass roots party will be paid.