Grassroots letters & reply

tito · 18-11-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

I am not sure what you are referring to here. The Grassroots appears to be promoting certain ideas for internal matters, not calling for Farage to resign. Are you suggesting that members shouldn't engage in any way whatsoever regarding internal matters, other than at election times and when asked to by the leadership?

Grassroots are blatantly anti-Farage.

steve fowler · 18-11-2007, 08:50 PM

Well lets see how next year goes for UKIP if we continue fail then we start to question Nigel's leadership.

komerad · 18-11-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tito

Grassroots are blatantly anti-Farage.

So what? Do you believe *all* party members should agree with the party leader?
Be a peculiar party if they did.

komerad · 18-11-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by steve fowler

Well lets see how next year goes for UKIP if we continue fail then we start to question Nigel's leadership.

Another year & it will be too late

Independent UKIP · 18-11-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by komerad

Another year & it will be too late

In what regard/s will it be too late? As Matt suggests it may be too late already for Britain. But it depends on what one is referring to.

komerad · 19-11-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

In what regard/s will it be too late? As Matt suggests it may be too late already for Britain. But it depends on what one is referring to.

Independent UKIP - My apologies, my last posting was rather obscure
I was refering to The new treaty which will be formally signed by all European leaders in Lisbon on 13 December and subsequently go for ratification next year, with a view to coming into place by mid-2009, ahead of the next European elections.
It will have been signed ,sealed & delivered, making all political Partys (inc. UKIP) irrelevant. Perhaps Matt is correct - it's already too late.

PETWINA · 19-11-2007, 08:09 AM

As the grass-roots meeting was open to any Tom Dick or Henry whether in UKIP ,Tories,BNP or anything else it is ridiculous for these flat earth movers and bone shakers to make demands of the UKIP party leadership based on motions passed there.They are a joke.

John Cooper · 19-11-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I have to be honest. I'm not happy with the situation. I think we have got, what some of us pretty much predicted from the start.

I also don't see the point in going down the road of "get Farage" though. Let him have a free run for a term. See how he does. If he fails, let him fail because of him, not beacuse he was beaten from within.

I agree we must support him until the next leadership election.

Millennium3 · 19-11-2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by komerad

Independent UKIP - My apologies, my last posting was rather obscure
I was refering to The new treaty which will be formally signed by all European leaders in Lisbon on 13 December and subsequently go for ratification next year, with a view to coming into place by mid-2009, ahead of the next European elections.
It will have been signed ,sealed & delivered, making all political Partys (inc. UKIP) irrelevant. Perhaps Matt is correct - it's already too late.

This is what makes the time up until the next election so important. If the Reform Treaty cannot be stopped from passing into legislation through a referendum, then by offering the electorate a vote on the matter at the next GE, which will be around the same time, is the second best option.

In my view, if there is not a successful campaign which shows the public significantly adverse to a United States of Europe at that time - Matt will be correct - it will be too late and our fate will be in others hands.

eublues · 19-11-2007, 08:47 AM

The self-proclaimed 'Grassroots' people were entitled to have a meeting and make representations (i.e. express opinions) and perhaps expect a polite response from the UKIP leadership.

However, making demands and declaring an ultimatum was not a good idea.

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18-11-2007, 08:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 1,201 Party: UKIP	Well lets see how next year goes for UKIP if we continue fail then we start to question Nigel's leadership.

19-11-2007, 08:09 AM	#27 (permalink)
PETWINA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 155	As the grass-roots meeting was open to any Tom Dick or Henry whether in UKIP ,Tories,BNP or anything else it is ridiculous for these flat earth movers and bone shakers to make demands of the UKIP party leadership based on motions passed there.They are a joke.

19-11-2007, 08:47 AM	#30 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,008	The self-proclaimed 'Grassroots' people were entitled to have a meeting and make representations (i.e. express opinions) and perhaps expect a polite response from the UKIP leadership. However, making demands and declaring an ultimatum was not a good idea.