UKIP: Brown's biggest Euro-lie yet

Blog Bot · 07-10-2007, 02:40 PM

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The Prime Minister is denying the British people a vote on the EU Constitution in spite of the fact that the famous red lines supposed to protect Britain are a fraud.

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Anthony Butcher · 07-10-2007, 03:12 PM

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The Prime Minister is denying the British people a vote on the EU Constitution in spite of the fact that the famous "red lines" supposed to protect Britain are a fraud.
The opt-out on Justice and Home Affairs, which Mr Brown claims is a key reason for not allowing the voters to have their say, is in fact simply delayed by five years.
After the five years are up, any further opt-outs will mean the country will have to pay fines to the EU.

UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage MEP said he was "disgusted, and yet not surprised" by the news.

"This government are desperate to push ahead with their plans for a country Called Europe," he said.

"They will do whatever they can to force through their beloved EU Constitution. They aren't going to let a trifling matter like a manifesto promise stop them.

"But we must all send a message to Mr Brown telling him we know what his plans are and we simply do not believe this is not the EU Constitution is disguise, which will fundamentally change the way we are governed.

"The Prime Minister has chickened out of an election. We must not let him get away with not giving us a say on this.

"Quite simply, it's his biggest lie yet."

The English text of the Treaty says that there will be a cosmetic five-year opt-out for the UK over Justice and Home Affairs (JHA). After these five years are up, the UK can opt out of any legislation made before January 1st 2009, when the EU Constitution is expected to come into force.

Under Protocol 10, Article 10(4) the EU can force the UK to pay financial penalities if they decide not to surrender JHA to the EU.

However, under 4a (2) in the Protocol, which has been newly added, the Council of Ministers has a legal right to try make the UK join forces over JHA, including policing and immigration.

Anthony Butcher · 07-10-2007, 03:37 PM

BBC NEWS | Politics | Brown defends EU referendum view

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Britain will not sign up to the EU reform treaty if its "red lines" are not kept, Gordon Brown has said.

The government says a referendum on the treaty is not needed as it has secured control over human and social rights, foreign policy, tax and benefits.
"If we do not achieve our red lines, then I would veto the treaty," the PM told BBC One's The Andrew Marr Show.
The Conservatives, UKIP and some Labour MPs say, regardless of the "red lines", a referendum is needed.

Constitutional change
The reforming treaty incorporates some of the old EU Constitution - which was dropped after being rejected in referendums by French and Dutch voters - on which the Labour government had promised a referendum. The Conservatives argue it is as much as 90% the same - the government says it has secured opt-outs which make it substantially different.

Mr Brown told the BBC that had it been a decision on the previously proposed constitution or joining the Euro, then he would back a referendum.
But he said if the red lines were achieved, he could not "honestly" say there would be any constitutional change.
He added: "I have got now to make sure that these red lines are implemented in practice.
"I've got to go to Brussels both in October and December and ensure that in detail we have achieved our aim, which is to remove the prospect that there are fundamental constitutional changes as a result of this amending treaty and so we've got a protocol, we've got an opt in, we've got an emergency break in some areas.
"If I can show that then let Parliament and let the country be a judge on that but let them see if I have achieved my aims and then we can have a further debate on it."

Manifesto promise
But UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage said the opt outs were "a fraud" and one of the "opt outs" - on justice and home affairs, would only last five years.
He said: "They [the government] will do whatever they can to force through their beloved EU Constitution, and aren't going to let a trifling matter like a manifesto promise stop them. "But we must all send a message to Mr Brown telling him we know what his plans are and we simply do not believe this is not the EU Constitution in disguise, which will fundamentally change the way we are governed."

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