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Default Farage on Today programme, tomorrow am.

Nigel Farage will be appearing on BBC Radio 4's 'Today' programme at 6.50 tomorrow morning (4th October).
(Radio 4 is broadcast on 92-95 fm or 198lw)

He will also be interviewed on BBC's Radio 5 Live breakfast show, also tomorrow, at 7.35.
(Radio 5 Live is broadcast on 693 & 909 mw)
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Default BBC Radio Four, BBC Radio Five, 'Freeview'

And both BBC Radio Four and BBC Radio Five can be received on 'Freeview' (television set-top box) - channels 704 (Radio Four) and Channel 705 (Radio Five).
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Default What is in the country's best interest?

The interesting thing for me was Nigel's response to the question about discussions with Conservatives.

Their policy is now to change our constitution so that there is always a referendum on any shift of power to the EC.

If we did not stand candidates in about 50/75 of the marginals where the Tory candidate was backing a treaty referendum, would the outcome be better for our country of either

1. (Dont stand in 50/75) a Brown Govt with tiny majority or a hung parliament, and a halving of the europhile 63 Lib Dem MPs.

2. (Do stand in all) a Brown win with the same or increased majority. Lib Dem losses limited to 5 to 10.

In the case of the first, the chances of a treaty referendum would be greater and also the eventual demise of Brown and Ming.

In the case of the second there is a small chance that The Conservative party would sink into further turmoil although they are stronger today than 2005 and their "noises off stage" are rapidly ageing. But Labour and the Lib Dems would be stronger and the European slide would continue.

What is in the country's best interest?
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The interesting thing for me was Nigel's response to the question about discussions with Conservatives.

Their policy is now to change our constitution so that there is always a referendum on any shift of power to the EC.

If we did not stand candidates in about 50/75 of the marginals where the Tory candidate was backing a treaty referendum, would the outcome be better for our country of either

1. (Dont stand in 50/75) a Brown Govt with tiny majority or a hung parliament, and a halving of the europhile 63 Lib Dem MPs.

2. (Do stand in all) a Brown win with the same or increased majority. Lib Dem losses limited to 5 to 10.

In the case of the first, the chances of a treaty referendum would be greater and also the eventual demise of Brown and Ming.

In the case of the second there is a small chance that The Conservative party would sink into further turmoil although they are stronger today than 2005 and their "noises off stage" are rapidly ageing. But Labour and the Lib Dems would be stronger and the European slide would continue.

What is in the country's best interest?
Where 1] & 2] NF's response? ie. these are his choices - I would have thought 100 - 200 most marginal seats would have to be not contested. For Cameon to win outright - this is the order of new seats he must win.
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I did not mean to imply that Farage said those points, they are mine. Farage just said that he would be interested in talking.

The study on the last GE found that UKIPs impact was only in 27 seats. So any effect can be between Brown/Lib Dems being ok Vs getting badly damaged.

It would not bring the Tories into power.

Remember how the Major 92-97 Govt struggled with a small majority which allowed their eurosceptics to become independent of their party? The same could happen to Labour if their majority is small or requires Lib Dem support.
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I did not mean to imply that Farage said those points, they are mine. Farage just said that he would be interested in talking.

The study on the last GE found that UKIPs impact was only in 27 seats. So any effect can be between Brown/Lib Dems being ok Vs getting badly damaged.

It would not bring the Tories into power.

Remember how the Major 92-97 Govt struggled with a small majority which allowed their eurosceptics to become independent of their party? The same could happen to Labour if their majority is small or requires Lib Dem support.
I know that it is very unlikely that UKIP's support could bring the Tories to power, however this is such an important election because of the referendum anything less than wholehearted support may be regreted at a major cost. GEs, particularly in these peculiar circumstances are very difficult to predict.
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A referendum on the constitution is not sufficient grounds for befriending the Tory party - by a long way.
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A referendum on the constitution is not sufficient grounds for befriending the Tory party - by a long way.
Even if all hope of getting out of the EU is lost if the amended treaty is signed and sealed?
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If the new treaty goes through despite opposition from many, that might trigger really serious anti-EU feeling in this country for the first time. It may have to get to that before our exit from the EU is possible.
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If the new treaty goes through despite opposition from many, that might trigger really serious anti-EU feeling in this country for the first time. It may have to get to that before our exit from the EU is possible.
On the assumption that the Brits, who now seem so ground down that they will accept anything, did decide they wanted out of the EU after the amendments have been signed and sealed - how would you imagine an exit would occur?
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