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Old 14-09-2007, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I seriously think we should target the Lib Dems. UKIP is pretty much a libertarian party. I was wondering whether Lib Dem members actually consider themselves liberal and democratic.

http://www.ldys.org.uk/forum/viewfor...14ec90630a0dfb

It would seem they do.

Have they no idea what they are supporting?
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The Lib Dims aren't Libertarian, they're new age Left Liberals.
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The Lib Dims aren't Libertarian, they're new age Left Liberals.
Absolutely spot on!
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The Lib Dims aren't Libertarian, they're new age Left Liberals.
The leadership may be, but the members don't seem to be.
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I seriously think we should target the Lib Dems.
I've been calling for this (targeting of the europhile Liberal Dims) on the forum longer than almost anyone else.
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The leadership may be, but the members don't seem to be.
So in your mind, that situation (think about it) means the Party is democratic and suitable for Libertarians why?
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I've been calling for this (targeting of the europhile Liberal Dims) on the forum longer than almost anyone else.
Brit, I think Tito is advocating changing the LDs from within. Are you really up for joining?
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Brit, I think Tito is advocating changing the LDs from within. Are you really up for joining?
No. I am advocating showing them how illiberal and statist their vile party really is. Take their activists
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No. I am advocating showing them how illiberal and statist their vile party really is. Take their activists
That's better. Good luck though, can't see you getting far.
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That's better. Good luck though, can't see you getting far.
Not me personally, of course not. It would take a concentrated (and, probably, official) effort.
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