Lib Dems call for EU withdrawl referendum

steve fowler · 15-09-2007, 07:47 PM

Im not saying it doesnt cost time and money britannist im just saying to some on here that its the only way to spead the reasons why we must leave the eu thats all.

Britannist · 15-09-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by steve fowler

I'm not saying it doesn't cost time and money Britannist - I'm just saying to some on here that its the only way to spread the reasons why we must leave the EU, that's all.

I agree with you Steve, that more needs to be done to get the message across to many voters of the dangers of the EU to our nation - the huge cost to each voter of EU membership; the hold the EU has over our national Parliament; the harm it does to our economy and the dangers of the EU military wing now under construction.

steve fowler · 15-09-2007, 08:05 PM

Well the more we and other do the better i say mate so im glad to work you and others to spead the word.

Britannist · 15-09-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by steve fowler

Well, the more we and other do the better, I say mate. So I'm glad to work with you and others to spread the word (against the EU).

Steve - I hope to see one, single united anti-EU movement - at the moment it is divided up into different parties and separate groups.

United we stand....

steve fowler · 15-09-2007, 08:55 PM

I wish for the same thing to happen aswell mate i just wish the ukip bosses were leading the way for that to happen!!!!.

Petrina · 15-09-2007, 09:48 PM

The Eurosceptic movement is fragmented because it wants to be that way .Big fish ,small pools .

Hopefully we are beginning to swim into a much larger pool where we can have lots more fish and we will start to see the minnows led by the genuinely big fish .

Keep swimming .

tito · 15-09-2007, 09:58 PM

It is split into many groups for good reason. We don't hate the EU for no good reason, we hate it for what it is and what it does. Therefore, what replaces it is equally important.
I would not join with the BNP because the post-EU Britain would be a hellhole. I would not join with the EDP because I do not agree with many of their policies. I would be wary of joining with the Conservatives because I am not a social authoritarian.

kernow · 15-09-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

People will be far more nervous of voting to come out of the EU than voting to reject a treaty.

That does worry me. Yesterday I was talking to the sister of a friend who I hadn't seen for 32 years, she said to me "I don't know anything about politics but I know we should not leave the EU because we'll be isolated and we're too small to stand alone" and she would not accept anything I said to the contrary!

steve fowler · 15-09-2007, 10:58 PM

Maybe you need to show her the report by Gerard Batten about the cost of staying in the eu and the facts that it is the eu that has helped destory our countrys once proud image.

ukpopdems · 17-09-2007, 11:17 AM

Agree with you Britannist this push for EU in or out vote by Ming is a political ruse to not only distance Lib/Dems from Cons and Lab but make the anti-EU parties panic just a little bit. It's not just Brown who can manipulate honest politics.

But, let's face it, neither Cameron nor Brown would dare go to the country on this issue. People now distrust politicians so much that the mere fact that the big three shout support for staying in will send voters rushing to the polls to vote out.

This is not a time for the anti-EU parties to bottle out and shout 'too early'! Now's the time to stand up and get on the band wagon - the majority of Britons want a vote (whether or not they want in or out) so our duty is to supprt them. It will stand us all in good stead later.

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15-09-2007, 07:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 1,201 Party: UKIP	Im not saying it doesnt cost time and money britannist im just saying to some on here that its the only way to spead the reasons why we must leave the eu thats all.

15-09-2007, 08:05 PM	#23 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 1,201 Party: UKIP	Well the more we and other do the better i say mate so im glad to work you and others to spead the word.

15-09-2007, 08:55 PM	#25 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 1,201 Party: UKIP	I wish for the same thing to happen aswell mate i just wish the ukip bosses were leading the way for that to happen!!!!.

15-09-2007, 09:48 PM	#26 (permalink)
Petrina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sussex Posts: 979	The Eurosceptic movement is fragmented because it wants to be that way .Big fish ,small pools . Hopefully we are beginning to swim into a much larger pool where we can have lots more fish and we will start to see the minnows led by the genuinely big fish . Keep swimming .

15-09-2007, 10:58 PM	#29 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 1,201 Party: UKIP	Maybe you need to show her the report by Gerard Batten about the cost of staying in the eu and the facts that it is the eu that has helped destory our countrys once proud image.

17-09-2007, 11:17 AM	#30 (permalink)
ukpopdems Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 237	Agree with you Britannist this push for EU in or out vote by Ming is a political ruse to not only distance Lib/Dems from Cons and Lab but make the anti-EU parties panic just a little bit. It's not just Brown who can manipulate honest politics. But, let's face it, neither Cameron nor Brown would dare go to the country on this issue. People now distrust politicians so much that the mere fact that the big three shout support for staying in will send voters rushing to the polls to vote out. This is not a time for the anti-EU parties to bottle out and shout 'too early'! Now's the time to stand up and get on the band wagon - the majority of Britons want a vote (whether or not they want in or out) so our duty is to supprt them. It will stand us all in good stead later.