UKIP Treasurer resigns

Barboo · 12-09-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

I don't think that anyone is suprised that Bruce has resigned. Indeed I am fairly sure that a couple of people predicted it just a few months ago after the Business meeting where he embarrassed NF, the news article where he accused the party of misleading him, and then (apparently) forced the party to close down NF's new call centre in Ramsgate.

Anthony! Can it be that you suspect he was pushed, rather than that he jumped of his own volition?

Anthony Butcher · 13-09-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Barboo

Anthony! Can it be that you suspect he was pushed, rather than that he jumped of his own volition?

No, I have no reason to think that. It just doesn't look like it was a working relationship and if someone has to go, it isn't going to be the party leader.

Barboo · 13-09-2007, 03:10 AM

I wonder also if his resignation is entirely unconnected to the announcement on 29 August that the Electoral Commission has lodged an appeal re the forfeiture of Alan Bown's donations? We don't know when Bruce Lawson resigned, only that the information was given to the NEC on Monday 10th September - presumably at their meeting. Be interesting to see if Andrew Smith takes it on again.

Aardvark · 13-09-2007, 09:36 AM

The words 'poisoned chalice' spring to mind. In the current situation nobody in his right mind would take on UKIP's books.

Rosie · 13-09-2007, 09:44 AM

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, perhaps that could be the new name for this forum, or 'the rumour mill' as the whinge brigade on here love nothing more than taking a bit of a rumour and building it into a great big negative 'fact'. Or perhaps there are just far too many conspiracy theorists on here. Why doesn't somebody on here contact the Party Chairman, or even Bruce Lawson, to get their side, obviously there will be little acceptance of any official statement.

Populist Lee · 13-09-2007, 10:10 AM

I expect that for a lot of former UKIP people who post here, the phrase: "once bitten, twice shy" will spring to mind.

There aren't many whingers on this Board, as it happens. And most of those moaners are UKIP *Loyalists* anyway.

Barboo · 13-09-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

The words 'poisoned chalice' spring to mind. In the current situation nobody in his right mind would take on UKIP's books.

Yet someone has to, for UKIP to continue as a registered political party. That puts whoever risks it into quite a strong bargaining position, I should think.

Populist Lee · 13-09-2007, 11:23 AM

Full Time job, with good Salary?

. . . And Pension Benefits.

Millennium3 · 13-09-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosie

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, perhaps that could be the new name for this forum, or 'the rumour mill' as the whinge brigade on here love nothing more than taking a bit of a rumour and building it into a great big negative 'fact'. Or perhaps there are just far too many conspiracy theorists on here. Why doesn't somebody on here contact the Party Chairman, or even Bruce Lawson, to get their side, obviously there will be little acceptance of any official statement.

Whether you believe that NF is the saviour of the Party or a leader leading it to its demise - each member has the right to decide this for themselves.

What should be kept in mind is that for UKIP to achieve its primary aim of getting the UK out of the EU it has, at least, to replace the Lib/Dems as the third largest party. If this is achieved the criticism he recieves on this small forum will be as nothing compared to the criticism he would then recieve in the press and other media outlets with regard to policies, his private life and the way he manages the Party.

NF should be humbly grateful to those of us who, from time to time, make some minor criticism of him - for it prepares him for what he thinks is his future.

Anthony Butcher · 13-09-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosie

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, perhaps that could be the new name for this forum, or 'the rumour mill' as the whinge brigade on here love nothing more than taking a bit of a rumour and building it into a great big negative 'fact'.

That's what forums are for - discussion. Everyone here knows what is fact and what is supposition. The purpose of these discussions is to share ideas and get to the truth of matters, if possible. People present all sides of it and then we each get to make up our own minds about it. If you don't like what is being said then put a counter argument in to redress the balance.

13-09-2007, 09:36 AM	#24 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,515	The words 'poisoned chalice' spring to mind. In the current situation nobody in his right mind would take on UKIP's books. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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13-09-2007, 03:10 AM	#23 (permalink)
Barboo Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 325	I wonder also if his resignation is entirely unconnected to the announcement on 29 August that the Electoral Commission has lodged an appeal re the forfeiture of Alan Bown's donations? We don't know when Bruce Lawson resigned, only that the information was given to the NEC on Monday 10th September - presumably at their meeting. Be interesting to see if Andrew Smith takes it on again.

13-09-2007, 09:44 AM	#25 (permalink)
Rosie Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 121	A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, perhaps that could be the new name for this forum, or 'the rumour mill' as the whinge brigade on here love nothing more than taking a bit of a rumour and building it into a great big negative 'fact'. Or perhaps there are just far too many conspiracy theorists on here. Why doesn't somebody on here contact the Party Chairman, or even Bruce Lawson, to get their side, obviously there will be little acceptance of any official statement.

13-09-2007, 10:10 AM	#26 (permalink)
Populist Lee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,886 Party: Other	I expect that for a lot of former UKIP people who post here, the phrase: "once bitten, twice shy" will spring to mind. There aren't many whingers on this Board, as it happens. And most of those moaners are UKIP Loyalists anyway.

13-09-2007, 11:23 AM	#28 (permalink)
Populist Lee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,886 Party: Other	Full Time job, with good Salary? . . . And Pension Benefits.