Is NF getting down with the kids?

tito · 17-06-2007, 08:30 AM

I just thought it interesting that when Nigel was reviewing the newspapers, the articles he chose were

1. The EU constitution, which was an obvious choice
2. Andrew Marr's dress sense
3. Footballers getting married.

:shock:

Is he trying to ditch the "fanatic" labels?

mkpdavies · 17-06-2007, 08:53 AM

Not what I would call a good selection, but you are probably right.

kernow · 17-06-2007, 09:29 AM

I know there are those on this forum who will disagree, but I thought it was a good sign that the BBC were treating Nigel as a Politician and not as some sort of right wing nutter. The fact that he was given the same shout as Michael Howard and that both he and Howard agreed there should be a referendum. I think it is a very good sign for UKIP, I don't exactly know why but I can feel a huge swing to UKIP about to happen, especially if Blair does the "Dirty"!!

tito · 17-06-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kernow

I know there are those on this forum who will disagree, but I thought it was a good sign that the BBC were treating Nigel as a Politician and not as some sort of right wing nutter. The fact that he was given the same shout as Michael Howard and that both he and Howard agreed there should be a referendum. I think it is a very good sign for UKIP, I don't exactly know why but I can feel a huge swing to UKIP about to happen, especially if Blair does the "Dirty"!!

I share your optimism, and I'll try to explain why.

We tried our whole "independence" re theming exercise at precisely the wrong time, during an election when the SNP were bound to dominate the airwaves.
Now the elections are over, and the next issue is this treaty (With almost everyone not wanting it, and the evidence being too blatant for the media to ignore), all of a sudden UKIP are more moderate. Many people won't have known the first thing about the EU until this treaty/constitution. So they evaluate the opposition to it, UKIP and the Tories. (The Tories offering a referendum).

But the Tories have jumped on this bandwagon too late, frankly nobody believes them. We were also cited as the only supporters for grammar schools, thanks to the media noting this people know we are not a single issue party.

So now people are looking for opposition to this treaty and they can see UKIP as a moderate opposition party who have really hit the right notes on the last two or three mainstream debates.

The "atmosphere" towards UKIP is now different to it has previously been, we are in a situation where it only takes people to notice us to join us. This is prime leafleting time, if someone agrees with our past two or three "common sense" stances on debates we can just give them a little more info to sway them.

I don't know if the leadership are clever enough to have achieved this situation on purpose (today's coverage is nearly too good to be true), but we should have the canvassers out in full force starting tomorrow evening.

gimlet · 17-06-2007, 10:16 AM

Watch here - click on the video link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...am/default.stm

harryaldridge · 17-06-2007, 10:25 AM

I think Nigel played it absoloutely right. He didn't labour his points and came across as more human. We must remember he was there to review the papers and not to debate points, and if he can come across with humour and show a light side then he may get asked back more often.

Also nice to see Michael Howard agreeing with Nigel's point on the EU. Is he becoming a crank? :shock:

17-06-2007, 08:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
tito Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Pembrokeshire Posts: 3,035	Is NF getting down with the kids? I just thought it interesting that when Nigel was reviewing the newspapers, the articles he chose were 1. The EU constitution, which was an obvious choice 2. Andrew Marr's dress sense 3. Footballers getting married. :shock: Is he trying to ditch the "fanatic" labels?

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	Not what I would call a good selection, but you are probably right. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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17-06-2007, 09:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,606	I know there are those on this forum who will disagree, but I thought it was a good sign that the BBC were treating Nigel as a Politician and not as some sort of right wing nutter. The fact that he was given the same shout as Michael Howard and that both he and Howard agreed there should be a referendum. I think it is a very good sign for UKIP, I don't exactly know why but I can feel a huge swing to UKIP about to happen, especially if Blair does the "Dirty"!!

17-06-2007, 10:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
gimlet Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Shropshire Posts: 797	Watch here - click on the video link. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...am/default.stm

17-06-2007, 10:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
harryaldridge Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Sussex Posts: 1,869	I think Nigel played it absoloutely right. He didn't labour his points and came across as more human. We must remember he was there to review the papers and not to debate points, and if he can come across with humour and show a light side then he may get asked back more often. Also nice to see Michael Howard agreeing with Nigel's point on the EU. Is he becoming a crank? :shock: