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Old 24-05-2007, 09:42 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Right; finally. A positive suggestion.

You believe our MEPs should stay in the UK? On some levels I agree.

However, the majority of the party does not want this.

I personally think the odd parliamentary criticism does far more for gathering UKIP support than to have them knocking on doors.


You haven't been paying atention Tito as I've come up with a number of ideas over the months :x

The main reason our MEP's go to Brussels seems to be to collect their allowances. :evil:

Where on earth do you get the statistic that the majority of the party want them to go to Brussels :?: :?: :?: :?:

Finally while they should knock on a few doors at the relevant times who said that is all they should do. :?:

I want to strengthen UKIP and make it more likely to achieve its aim of get the UK to leave the EU.

I assume you agree with that. Where we apparantly disagree is as to whether our MEPs are going a good job. I say they are performing very badly and have to all intense and purposes gone native. :evil:
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Old 24-05-2007, 10:35 AM   #72 (permalink)
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I do not think that the MEPs have gone to the other side. What has been happening is that there is no clear plan as to their role and the overall strategy. They are left to their own devices and we see the results.

This should have been laid down by the MEP Leader Farage but he failed to do it. They are Leaderless and the same person is now in charge of the whole party.

He is (as Richardski put it) a Sales Director not a CEO. Not his fault, what he needs to do is recognise that and put a good CEO in position in his place at the Centre and a good Chief of Staff to sort out the MEPs role.
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Tito said:-
Right; finally. A positive suggestion.

You believe our MEPs should stay in the UK? On some levels I agree.

However, the majority of the party does not want this.

I personally think the odd parliamentary criticism does far more for gathering UKIP support than to have them knocking on doors.


You haven't been paying atention Tito as I've come up with a number of ideas over the months :x

The main reason our MEP's go to Brussels seems to be to collect their allowances. :evil:

Where on earth do you get the statistic that the majority of the party want them to go to Brussels :?: :?: :?: :?:

Finally while they should knock on a few doors at the relevant times who said that is all they should do. :?:

I want to strengthen UKIP and make it more likely to achieve its aim of get the UK to leave the EU.

I assume you agree with that. Where we apparantly disagree is as to whether our MEPs are going a good job. I say they are performing very badly and have to all intense and purposes gone native. :evil:
With special regard to your recent "honeytrap" article you are certainly not strengthening us. If you want to change the leader and tactics, democratically, that is one thing. But it is entirely another when you damage us like this.

Surely, you can see that what you do does not gather support and members. Instead it drives a wedge through the community and scares people off.

Should you choose to seek democratic reform I would support you; we certainly need to change how we are run.

I suggest, instead, you use what little time remaining to influence the vote of others in the NEC election. That would be a start. (The ballot papers turned up today, by the way)

I, personally, voted for

Chris Mounsey
Toby Micklethwait
Geoffrey Kingscot
Steven Povey.
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I do not think that the MEPs have gone to the other side. What has been happening is that there is no clear plan as to their role and the overall strategy. They are left to their own devices and we see the results.

This should have been laid down by the MEP Leader Farage but he failed to do it. They are Leaderless and the same person is now in charge of the whole party.

He is (as Richardski put it) a Sales Director not a CEO. Not his fault, what he needs to do is recognise that and put a good CEO in position in his place at the Centre and a good Chief of Staff to sort out the MEPs role.
Even if they are leaderless it is no excuse for them NOT getting together and working out some sort of plan. The only plan they currently have is how many allowances to claim and how much duty free to buy from the MEP's privilege shop :evil:

I agree entirely that Nigel should give up the leadership and concentrate on his media activities but the reason he won't is that he does NOT want any one poking around into what the devil the MEPs all get up to. The last person who tried to sort things out was our previous Chairman Petrina and look what Mike Nattrass did to her :evil:

UKIP MEPs are as thick as thieves and the soon they go the better.

The real battle to be won by the UKIP membership is to ensure the procedure to select the next batch of MEPs is as democratic as it can be.
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