'Bloody-minded' MEP [viz. N. Farage] beats Euro smoking ban

stathan · 07-04-2007, 07:51 PM

Thinking along those lines then your suggestion of the imposition of smoking once again in all public areas including the workplace would presumably make you a fascist also.

So I guess that we must both be fascists, well heres one who is just about to goose step all the way up to my nice smoke free local, I'll pass on your regards to the little group of wheezing saddo's huddled in the doorway as I squeeze past.

tito · 07-04-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Heaver

I find it hysterical that we live in the most Politically Correct times ever, yet seem to have a regime that resembles fascism in a liberal form!

I'd laugh too, if it wasn't for the fact I live in and fear for the place.

mkpdavies · 07-04-2007, 07:54 PM

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Thinking along those lines then your suggestion of the imposition of smoking once again in all public areas including the workplace would presumably make you a fascist also.

No, I said the choice would be by democratic madate in public. Don't you understand that?

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So I guess that we must both be fascists, well heres one who is just about to goose step all the way up to my nice smoke free local, I'll pass on your regards to the little group of wheezing saddo's huddled in the doorway as I squeeze past.

No just you. Just hope it isn't drink that is next on the health fascists agenda, because then you won't have much cause to go to the pub then.

brian pearson · 07-04-2007, 10:02 PM

I have given these forums a rest for a while and this is the first thread I have viewed.

More and more I find myself wanting to break the laws of this country just so I can feel at ease with myself. No doubt that great feeling of the Great British lock in will be replaced with a late night smoke in. I can just imagine the scene. 1 AM, pubs virtually empty and the landlord scans the remaining clientele and decides to suggest a smoke in.

Of course the pub police are trawling the area looking to protect consenting adults from themselves. Ready to smash down the door and arrest a smoker.

I could go on about filling a house with smoke while the kids have little choice or the thick mother to be, puffing away ready to give you a earful of obscenities if you dare to ask about the rights of her unborn child who has no choice.

It's simple. Landlord chooses and so do you. Hate throwing the fascist thing around but can't think what else to say.

Britannist · 07-04-2007, 10:49 PM

I've read of at least one local council in Derbyshire (Labour-controlled) taking on recently a "Smoking Enforcement Officer" and assistant for the annual cost of nearly £45, 000.

The job of the person will include the task of visiting various public places to remind people about the smoking ban.

What a waste of public money.

ukip kipper · 08-04-2007, 02:43 AM

My view isn't represented on the poll: that pubs should be required to provide at least one smoke-free room. There could be stipulations on the size of such an area relative to the total size of the pub, to prevent abuse.

This would make all pubs with more than one room acceptable to both smokers and non-smokers.

Pubs would be free to ban smoking altogether on their premises if they wished.

View Poll Results: The smoking ban...
I agree with the new law	8	22.86%
Nigel is right - pubs and restaurants should be allowed to choose	24	68.57%
There should be no ban at all	3	8.57%
Other / Don't Know	0	0%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 23,176	Smoking enforcement officer in Derbyshire I've read of at least one local council in Derbyshire (Labour-controlled) taking on recently a "Smoking Enforcement Officer" and assistant for the annual cost of nearly £45, 000. The job of the person will include the task of visiting various public places to remind people about the smoking ban. What a waste of public money.

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07-04-2007, 07:51 PM	#21 (permalink)
stathan Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 423	Thinking along those lines then your suggestion of the imposition of smoking once again in all public areas including the workplace would presumably make you a fascist also. So I guess that we must both be fascists, well heres one who is just about to goose step all the way up to my nice smoke free local, I'll pass on your regards to the little group of wheezing saddo's huddled in the doorway as I squeeze past.

07-04-2007, 10:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
brian pearson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: nottinghanshire Posts: 827	I have given these forums a rest for a while and this is the first thread I have viewed. More and more I find myself wanting to break the laws of this country just so I can feel at ease with myself. No doubt that great feeling of the Great British lock in will be replaced with a late night smoke in. I can just imagine the scene. 1 AM, pubs virtually empty and the landlord scans the remaining clientele and decides to suggest a smoke in. Of course the pub police are trawling the area looking to protect consenting adults from themselves. Ready to smash down the door and arrest a smoker. I could go on about filling a house with smoke while the kids have little choice or the thick mother to be, puffing away ready to give you a earful of obscenities if you dare to ask about the rights of her unborn child who has no choice. It's simple. Landlord chooses and so do you. Hate throwing the fascist thing around but can't think what else to say.

08-04-2007, 02:43 AM	#26 (permalink)
ukip kipper Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 303	My view isn't represented on the poll: that pubs should be required to provide at least one smoke-free room. There could be stipulations on the size of such an area relative to the total size of the pub, to prevent abuse. This would make all pubs with more than one room acceptable to both smokers and non-smokers. Pubs would be free to ban smoking altogether on their premises if they wished.