UKIP and The New Party

rjt · 05-04-2007, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

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Very brief outline of principles but little detailed policy.

which - UKIP or NEW?

New Party, UKIP have made some progress but still have a long way to go.

devilskitchen · 05-04-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sean43

Now they have such a great website, it look clean, fresh, its easy to navigate etc. They also have everything in place, like a direct link to their forum etc. Its so simple, yet UKIP cannot actually do it.

This is because there is no one is a position of authority who knows anything about t'interwebs, which is why I'm standing for the NEC, etc. etc.

22ANDUK · 09-04-2007, 07:17 PM

They just seem to be a 'cyber-party'. Have all the fancy links and graphics on their website, but how many New Party candidates are canvassing and drumming up support for the local elections? How many candidates do they have? How many members do they have?!

Here's some New Party facts:

*The party was founded under the name Peoples Alliance

*Took no part in the 2004 European Parliament Elections

*Several senior members of the New Party subsequently departed to join Kilroy-Silk's Veritas party at its launch in February 2005, including Richard Vass, the first Party Chairman of Veritas, and Patrick Eston, Kilroy-Silk's successor as leader.

*The New Party did not stand in the 2005 general election.

*The party did stand candidates under the name of the Scottish Peoples Alliance at the 2003 Scottish Parliamentary Elections.

*The most recent policy statement of the New Party is the Manifesto for a World Class Nation, published in 2005.

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Party_%28UK%29)

Alex McKee · 09-04-2007, 07:27 PM

I removed the last of those points you made, 22ANDUK, because it could incorrectly lead people to associate the modern New Party with an unrelated party that bore the same name.

22ANDUK · 09-04-2007, 08:01 PM

Fair enough, though please allow me to publicise what I said so people aren't confused. I stated that the last 'New Party' in Britain was led by Oswald Mosley in the 1930s. I should have actually eleaborated that this New Party was essentially a Labour splinter group with a handful of MPs for a bit and split the Left's vote in the allowing the Conservatives to come into power.

This New Party was in fact a completely different party and entity to today's party, sharing the same name only.

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09-04-2007, 07:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
22ANDUK Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,438	They just seem to be a 'cyber-party'. Have all the fancy links and graphics on their website, but how many New Party candidates are canvassing and drumming up support for the local elections? How many candidates do they have? How many members do they have?! Here's some New Party facts: The party was founded under the name Peoples Alliance Took no part in the 2004 European Parliament Elections Several senior members of the New Party subsequently departed to join Kilroy-Silk's Veritas party at its launch in February 2005, including Richard Vass, the first Party Chairman of Veritas, and Patrick Eston, Kilroy-Silk's successor as leader. The New Party did not stand in the 2005 general election. The party did stand candidates under the name of the Scottish Peoples Alliance at the 2003 Scottish Parliamentary Elections. The most recent policy statement of the New Party is the Manifesto for a World Class Nation, published in 2005. (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Party_%28UK%29)

09-04-2007, 07:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,666	I removed the last of those points you made, 22ANDUK, because it could incorrectly lead people to associate the modern New Party with an unrelated party that bore the same name.

09-04-2007, 08:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
22ANDUK Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,438	Fair enough, though please allow me to publicise what I said so people aren't confused. I stated that the last 'New Party' in Britain was led by Oswald Mosley in the 1930s. I should have actually eleaborated that this New Party was essentially a Labour splinter group with a handful of MPs for a bit and split the Left's vote in the allowing the Conservatives to come into power. This New Party was in fact a completely different party and entity to today's party, sharing the same name only.