David Noakes' formal complaint Re: Malcolm Wood

cookie65 · 03-03-2007, 05:08 PM

David

I agree with most of your opinions regarding the EU as I am sure do most people on this forum. The public do not.
UKIP is a political party. Our job is to show people how we can make Britain a better place. The Public want solutions, not to hear more and more about how the EU is destroying this country. They do not see how the EU causes their lives to be ****. UKIP has spent 13 years telling people why their lives are ****, and it has resulted in us running at about 2% in local and general elections.
The best analogy I can think of is A person taking their car to the garage because they cannot use third gear.
They know the car is broken and that it needs repairing.
They do not need the details eg the x syncro has lost a tooth, or the Y shaft has too much endfloat.
All they want to know is that you have fixed it and having paid you they carry on with their lives.
I met you at the Hustings in Merseyside, and have no doubt you are sincere and honest, however your obsession with the problem and not the solution is most likely the reason you have been sidelined.
I do not condone dirty tricks ,however if the Germans had found some way of sidelining adolf, I for one would not complain about the tactics
In short thank you for the work you have done in exposing the EU, however you are at your most effective researching the EU. it is better for UKIP and yourself, if you are no longer a member.

Richard Allen · 03-03-2007, 05:31 PM

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Mr. David Noakes wrote: David Cameron has family links to German National Socialism

Even if this is true we only damage ourselves by making such claims. The vast majority of people will be turned off by us saying such things.

michael mcgough · 03-03-2007, 06:09 PM

Will we get yet another letter soon?
Will GLW email us to alert us to tomorrows press??
Will Brian Lee find out from the EDs what the price of a loaf is?
Will Petrina give early warning of more dirt?
Will the upstanding party member cottaging in a Devon khazi listening to those urinating finally reveal himself or show us his affidavit?
Will Lexxie reveal himself?

Oh the anticipation.

Hartlepool · 03-03-2007, 06:58 PM

Relax,everything is going to plan,and on schedule.

We will be the ultimate winners. :wink:

michael mcgough · 03-03-2007, 07:25 PM

Of course it will Hartlepool but I just wish to pre-empt GLW's clique

Mark Croucher · 03-03-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Allen

Quote:

Mr. David Noakes wrote: David Cameron has family links to German National Socialism

Even if this is true we only damage ourselves by making such claims. The vast majority of people will be turned off by us saying such things.

Exactly. I refer the honourable members of this forum to the response I gave some weeks ago and the herpetological allusion contained therein.

Mark

Hartlepool · 03-03-2007, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Allen

Quote:

Mr. David Noakes wrote: David Cameron has family links to German National Socialism

Even if this is true we only damage ourselves by making such claims. The vast majority of people will be turned off by us saying such things.

Richard,you have no true reason to state that the vast majority of people will be turned off by saying such.

We in UKIP cannot afford to be known as the dogooders,take note of this please.

eublues · 03-03-2007, 07:41 PM

Even if true, is young Dave to be held to account for events from the 1930s?

That's not the UKIP way, surely.

Hartlepool · 03-03-2007, 07:54 PM

Exactly EU,we must be seen to be realistic,honourable and forthright,without being so we will be viewed as runofthemill politcians and thus,repetative liars.

Surely we can guarantee the people that we are more than that?

ryansoton · 03-03-2007, 09:05 PM

Not David Noakes again with another of his pointless ramblings.

You may not like the leaders of this party David but he was elected by gaining more votes then you alot more.

Its about time you took your single isssue and minor supporters with you elsewhere.

And before you get started I didnt vote for our current leader in our leadership election.

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03-03-2007, 05:08 PM	#21 (permalink)
cookie65 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: hyde cheshire Posts: 648	David I agree with most of your opinions regarding the EU as I am sure do most people on this forum. The public do not. UKIP is a political party. Our job is to show people how we can make Britain a better place. The Public want solutions, not to hear more and more about how the EU is destroying this country. They do not see how the EU causes their lives to be **. UKIP has spent 13 years telling people why their lives are **, and it has resulted in us running at about 2% in local and general elections. The best analogy I can think of is A person taking their car to the garage because they cannot use third gear. They know the car is broken and that it needs repairing. They do not need the details eg the x syncro has lost a tooth, or the Y shaft has too much endfloat. All they want to know is that you have fixed it and having paid you they carry on with their lives. I met you at the Hustings in Merseyside, and have no doubt you are sincere and honest, however your obsession with the problem and not the solution is most likely the reason you have been sidelined. I do not condone dirty tricks ,however if the Germans had found some way of sidelining adolf, I for one would not complain about the tactics In short thank you for the work you have done in exposing the EU, however you are at your most effective researching the EU. it is better for UKIP and yourself, if you are no longer a member.

03-03-2007, 06:09 PM	#23 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 1,254	Will we get yet another letter soon? Will GLW email us to alert us to tomorrows press?? Will Brian Lee find out from the EDs what the price of a loaf is? Will Petrina give early warning of more dirt? Will the upstanding party member cottaging in a Devon khazi listening to those urinating finally reveal himself or show us his affidavit? Will Lexxie reveal himself? Oh the anticipation.

03-03-2007, 06:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern England Posts: 7,105 Party: Free England Party	Relax,everything is going to plan,and on schedule. We will be the ultimate winners. :wink:

03-03-2007, 07:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 1,254	Of course it will Hartlepool but I just wish to pre-empt GLW's clique

03-03-2007, 07:41 PM	#28 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,194	Even if true, is young Dave to be held to account for events from the 1930s? That's not the UKIP way, surely.

03-03-2007, 07:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern England Posts: 7,105 Party: Free England Party	Exactly EU,we must be seen to be realistic,honourable and forthright,without being so we will be viewed as runofthemill politcians and thus,repetative liars. Surely we can guarantee the people that we are more than that?

03-03-2007, 09:05 PM	#30 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 782 Party: Other	Not David Noakes again with another of his pointless ramblings. You may not like the leaders of this party David but he was elected by gaining more votes then you alot more. Its about time you took your single isssue and minor supporters with you elsewhere. And before you get started I didnt vote for our current leader in our leadership election.