UKIP safe - NEC liable for Electoral Commission fines.

BASILDON BOY · 24-02-2007, 10:34 AM

If I am reading this right then UKIP does not have to worry about Electoral Commssion fines as the burden will fall on NEC members (past and present?). Clarification anyone?

http://www.votenigel.org/10_asknigel.shtml

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Q The NEC are currently accountable for any liabilities, e.g. fine for late delivery of accounts. Do the candidates plan to address this, or will they support someone else' s initiative to address this? Robert McWhirter

A The possibility of UKIP being a Ltd. company needs to be looked at again. We could also transfer the responsibility to a finance committee.

SponPlague · 24-02-2007, 10:48 AM

It's been known for a number of years that the structure of the party leaves NEC members liable for any debts it incurs. They're idiots for not having transferred the risk before now... DCB was also asked the question of liability during the leadership campaign:

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Originally Posted by David Campbell Bannerman

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Originally Posted by SponPlague

1. The NEC are currently accountable for any liabilities, e.g. fine for late delivery of accounts. Do the candidates plan to address this, or will they support someone else' s initiative to address this?

As Chairman, I have initiated our Legal adviser on the NEC, Michael Zuckerman, to work with the Treasurer Bruce Lawson to seek incorporation of UKIP as a company limited by guarantee to address this point. This is already in hand, and reports on progress will be given to the NEC and to members. It does seem sensible that members of the NEC do not carry direct personal liability.

BASILDON BOY · 24-02-2007, 10:56 AM

So UKIP are safe and sound then.

And each of the 15 members of the NEC are personally liable for £24,613.13 each?

So UKIP won't be made bankrupt - the NEC will?

freedom & democracy 4 · 24-02-2007, 11:12 AM

Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party. By the sounds of this their plot has failed. Tofine UKIP for something as stupid as this, a genuine mistake, but hey the EC will just ignore the cash for honors, afterall Labor are europhiles who agree with their masters. This is a further sign that democracy is being eroded in this country by corrupt officals.

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY

So UKIP are safe and sound then.

And each of the 15 members of the NEC are personally liable for £24,613.13 each?

So UKIP won't be made bankrupt - the NEC will?

There are only ten elected members of the NEC at the moment, so it is more than that. I imagine a few people might think twice before putting themselves forward for election now though

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by freedom & democracy 4

Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party. By the sounds of this their plot has failed.

Are you sure of the link between the EU and the British Electoral Commission? I am not so convinced of a grand conspiracy here.

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Originally Posted by freedom & democracy 4

Tofine UKIP for something as stupid as this, a genuine mistake, but hey the EC will just ignore the cash for honors, afterall Labor are europhiles who agree with their masters. This is a further sign that democracy is being eroded in this country by corrupt officals.

I think that the cash for honours inquiry is still going on, but you will probably be proved right on that point.

BASILDON BOY · 24-02-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

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Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY

So UKIP are safe and sound then.

And each of the 15 members of the NEC are personally liable for £24,613.13 each?

So UKIP won't be made bankrupt - the NEC will?

There are only ten elected members of the NEC at the moment, so it is more than that. I imagine a few people might think twice before putting themselves forward for election now though

Has anybody asked if past UKIP NEC members will also be held personally liable?

SponPlague · 24-02-2007, 12:07 PM

Were you an NEC member at the time the donations were accepted Anthony? :twisted:

Anthony Butcher · 24-02-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SponPlague

Were you an NEC member at the time the donations were accepted Anthony? :twisted:

Possibly for some of them, except that the NEC was never informed of any donations.

Bluemerle · 24-02-2007, 12:29 PM

The NEC was a bit like a secret society in which the members were not informed of any secrets. :shock:

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24-02-2007, 10:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 2,055	So UKIP are safe and sound then. And each of the 15 members of the NEC are personally liable for £24,613.13 each? So UKIP won't be made bankrupt - the NEC will?

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freedom & democracy 4 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Emsworth, full of the EU's Polish imports! Posts: 209	Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party. By the sounds of this their plot has failed. Tofine UKIP for something as stupid as this, a genuine mistake, but hey the EC will just ignore the cash for honors, afterall Labor are europhiles who agree with their masters. This is a further sign that democracy is being eroded in this country by corrupt officals.

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SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 3,401	Were you an NEC member at the time the donations were accepted Anthony? :twisted:

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Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,252	The NEC was a bit like a secret society in which the members were not informed of any secrets. :shock: