UKIP safe - NEC liable for Electoral Commission fines.

John Page · 24-02-2007, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedom & democracy 4

Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party.

Paranoid tosh. What does the European Commission have to fear from UKIP?

As for the NEC members' liability, did SE Region and its leader refer to the party treasurer within the necessary time period of each of the donations being received? If so, did they provide assurances that all was in order?

Seems to be that perhaps the buck should stop in the SE.

Millennium3 · 24-02-2007, 01:27 PM

I agree - it does seem that many members share a persecution complex on behalf of UKIP.

This was shoddy administration and those responsible should pay the fine.

Mark Croucher · 24-02-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY

If I am reading this right then UKIP does not have to worry about Electoral Commssion fines as the burden will fall on NEC members (past and present?). Clarification anyone?

In this instance, this is not correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Section 60, PPERA 2000

(5) In the case of a registered party which is not a body corporate-

(a) proceedings under section 58 or 59 shall be brought against or by the party in its own name (and not in that of any of its members);
(b) for the purposes of any such proceedings any rules of court relating to the service of documents apply as if the party were a body corporate; and
(c) any amount forfeited by an order under section 58 or 59 shall be paid out of the funds of the party.

The action is being brought under S.58

Mark

BASILDON BOY · 24-02-2007, 02:07 PM

At least the NEC members will only have to cough up £150 each to pay the fine then.

Martin Harvey · 24-02-2007, 02:29 PM

Freedom & Democracy 4 wrote

'Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party. By the sounds of this their plot has failed. Tofine UKIP for something as stupid as this, a genuine mistake, but hey the EC will just ignore the cash for honors, afterall Labour are europhiles who agree with their masters. This is a further sign that democracy is being eroded in this country by corrupt officals.'
__________________________________________________ ___________

UKIP, because we are gaining massively increased support just now, is seen by the EU and their cronies, Lab/Lib/Con and the many other traitors in our midst, as the real threat to their plans for the Soviet State of Europe. This shadowy organisation has agents all around us and at all levels.
UKIP is the only Party that can keep Great Britain and our Democracy intact, and this move by the EC is to be expected. But it will/has already backfired on them, and UKIP will gain extra publicity and public support while notching up a few more points in the opinion polls.

Martin Harvey.

freedom & democracy 4 · 24-02-2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedom & democracy 4

Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party. By the sounds of this their plot has failed.

Are you sure of the link between the EU and the British Electoral Commission? I am not so convinced of a grand conspiracy here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedom & democracy 4

Tofine UKIP for something as stupid as this, a genuine mistake, but hey the EC will just ignore the cash for honors, afterall Labor are europhiles who agree with their masters. This is a further sign that democracy is being eroded in this country by corrupt officals.

I think that the cash for honours inquiry is still going on, but you will probably be proved right on that point.

The EU controls everything in this country. It may not control i directly, but i bet the EU has meddled in it somewhere, just to stop us becoming a threat in the future.

freedom & democracy 4 · 24-02-2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Page

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedom & democracy 4

Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party.

Paranoid tosh. What does the European Commission have to fear from UKIP?

As for the NEC members' liability, did SE Region and its leader refer to the party treasurer within the necessary time period of each of the donations being received? If so, did they provide assurances that all was in order?

Seems to be that perhaps the buck should stop in the SE.

Its not what they fear now, but what they fear in the future. By making steps to destroy us now, they are stopping us before they do have something to fear.

Internationalist · 24-02-2007, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Croucher

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY

If I am reading this right then UKIP does not have to worry about Electoral Commssion fines as the burden will fall on NEC members (past and present?). Clarification anyone?

In this instance, this is not correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Section 60, PPERA 2000

(5) In the case of a registered party which is not a body corporate-

(a) proceedings under section 58 or 59 shall be brought against or by the party in its own name (and not in that of any of its members);
(b) for the purposes of any such proceedings any rules of court relating to the service of documents apply as if the party were a body corporate; and
(c) any amount forfeited by an order under section 58 or 59 shall be paid out of the funds of the party.

The action is being brought under S.58

Mark

I would add that the NEC members are only responsible for the party's liabilities in the event that the party is unable to meet them, i.e., if the party goes 'bankrupt'.

24-02-2007, 02:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	At least the NEC members will only have to cough up £150 each to pay the fine then. __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

24-02-2007, 01:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,506	I agree - it does seem that many members share a persecution complex on behalf of UKIP. This was shoddy administration and those responsible should pay the fine.

24-02-2007, 02:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
Martin Harvey Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Essex Posts: 167	Freedom & Democracy 4 wrote 'Safe or not, this is still a major move by the EU to destroy the party. By the sounds of this their plot has failed. Tofine UKIP for something as stupid as this, a genuine mistake, but hey the EC will just ignore the cash for honors, afterall Labour are europhiles who agree with their masters. This is a further sign that democracy is being eroded in this country by corrupt officals.' __________________________________________________ ___________ UKIP, because we are gaining massively increased support just now, is seen by the EU and their cronies, Lab/Lib/Con and the many other traitors in our midst, as the real threat to their plans for the Soviet State of Europe. This shadowy organisation has agents all around us and at all levels. UKIP is the only Party that can keep Great Britain and our Democracy intact, and this move by the EC is to be expected. But it will/has already backfired on them, and UKIP will gain extra publicity and public support while notching up a few more points in the opinion polls. Martin Harvey.