More bad news for UKIP.

Bluemerle · 22-02-2007, 11:16 PM

Tory donor gives up on UKIP.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/4a523328-c2a...b5df10621.html

eublues · 22-02-2007, 11:19 PM

The FT takes an interest in UKIP for once. Presumably its London office is still flying the EU flag out front.

ryansoton · 22-02-2007, 11:24 PM

He has never given to UKIP so cant give up on us.

mkpdavies · 22-02-2007, 11:53 PM

Anyone smell concerted campaign going on here.

devilskitchen · 22-02-2007, 11:59 PM

Yup; it's not difficult to miss, the stench is so very, very strong...

jp · 23-02-2007, 09:07 AM

The fact that the EU loving FT runs with this story tells you all you need to know about BluLab's real EU strategy, ie talk the talk but in the end do sod all.

The hammering of UKIP from all sides represents progress, as uncomfortable as it is for the party right now.

Some good news - A new YouGov poll shows "Others" at 14%. I will post the breakdown when it is put up on their website.

Hartlepool · 23-02-2007, 10:08 AM

I don't suppose that all this extra bad exposure for UKIP occurring exactly ten weeks before Local Elections has anything to do with things has it?

We can overcome and beat this bias and undemocratic attack,and,we will.

harryaldridge · 23-02-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartlepool

I don't suppose that all this extra bad exposure for UKIP occurring exactly ten weeks before Local Elections has anything to do with things has it?

We can overcome and beat this bias and undemocratic attack,and,we will.

Yes i think it has a lot to do with the local elections. They are worried we might make a breakthrough. These elections are a key hurdle for us. We must not dovert resources from campaigning to pay the fine but we must continue as planned and then fight the decison in the courts. We can easily turn this to our advantage and keep us in the media ahead of the elections.

Britannist · 23-02-2007, 12:38 PM

The report on Lord Kalms and UKIP in the Financial Times includes the following extract "The president of the electrical retailer DSG International and former Tory treasurer (Lord Kalms) said he “had no doubt” that Mr Cameron will endorse a more radical eurosceptic stance in the run-up to the next election."

The problem is - the Conservative Party leadership go eurosceptic before every General Election but do not follow it through afterwards (whether in opposition or in Government).

What is Lord Kalms going to do when this happens next time?

If the Cameron-led Conservative Party was serious about being eurosceptic it would be on the way out of the pro-euro EPP group in Brussels NOW. It would NOT have ditched the pledge (backed by the last three Conservative leaders) to quit the damaging and costly EU Common Fisheries Policy and it would NOT have brought in a ban on anti-EU Conservative MPs sitting in the Conservative Shadow Cabinet.

If these matters stay are left to stay as they are now - then the Cameron leadership of the Conservative Party will let them stay that way after the next General Election too.

allanon · 23-02-2007, 04:01 PM

Why should Kalms care whether Britain is in or out of the EU ? He's a powerful man with an eye for the main chance. The promise of a nice little earner as chairman of some advisory/consultative committee should the Tories ascend to power would be hard for such a man to ignore.

There are very few influential people left who have any real principles.

Sadly, democracy itself has led us into this situation.

22-02-2007, 11:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,252	More bad news for UKIP. Tory donor gives up on UKIP. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/4a523328-c2a...b5df10621.html

22-02-2007, 11:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	Anyone smell concerted campaign going on here. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

22-02-2007, 11:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
devilskitchen Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 419	Yup; it's not difficult to miss, the stench is so very, very strong... __________________ Unio Europaea delenda est

23-02-2007, 12:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 23,176	Conservative Party alwasy goes eurosceptic before election The report on Lord Kalms and UKIP in the Financial Times includes the following extract "The president of the electrical retailer DSG International and former Tory treasurer (Lord Kalms) said he “had no doubt” that Mr Cameron will endorse a more radical eurosceptic stance in the run-up to the next election." The problem is - the Conservative Party leadership go eurosceptic before every General Election but do not follow it through afterwards (whether in opposition or in Government). What is Lord Kalms going to do when this happens next time? If the Cameron-led Conservative Party was serious about being eurosceptic it would be on the way out of the pro-euro EPP group in Brussels NOW. It would NOT have ditched the pledge (backed by the last three Conservative leaders) to quit the damaging and costly EU Common Fisheries Policy and it would NOT have brought in a ban on anti-EU Conservative MPs sitting in the Conservative Shadow Cabinet. If these matters stay are left to stay as they are now - then the Cameron leadership of the Conservative Party will let them stay that way after the next General Election too.

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22-02-2007, 11:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,194	The FT takes an interest in UKIP for once. Presumably its London office is still flying the EU flag out front.

22-02-2007, 11:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 782 Party: Other	He has never given to UKIP so cant give up on us.

23-02-2007, 09:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
jp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,002	The fact that the EU loving FT runs with this story tells you all you need to know about BluLab's real EU strategy, ie talk the talk but in the end do sod all. The hammering of UKIP from all sides represents progress, as uncomfortable as it is for the party right now. Some good news - A new YouGov poll shows "Others" at 14%. I will post the breakdown when it is put up on their website.

23-02-2007, 10:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern England Posts: 7,105 Party: Free England Party	I don't suppose that all this extra bad exposure for UKIP occurring exactly ten weeks before Local Elections has anything to do with things has it? We can overcome and beat this bias and undemocratic attack,and,we will.

23-02-2007, 04:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
allanon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 665	Why should Kalms care whether Britain is in or out of the EU ? He's a powerful man with an eye for the main chance. The promise of a nice little earner as chairman of some advisory/consultative committee should the Tories ascend to power would be hard for such a man to ignore. There are very few influential people left who have any real principles. Sadly, democracy itself has led us into this situation.