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Old 22-02-2007, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I noticed the following reader's letter following Peter Riddell's ridiculous article in today's Times in which Riddell claims that UKIP poses no threat to the Cameron-Conservatives:

In my opinion UKIP will eventually metamorphose into a English Party (English Radicals)? In any case to say the Tories have nothing to fear is nonsense. The only thing that UKIP lacks is a truly recognisable figure, given that all else will fall into place.

From: Peter Bolt of Redditch (Worcestershire).

* Riddell's article can be found in a separate thread in this section of the forum.
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Old 22-02-2007, 11:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I noticed the following reader's letter following Peter Riddell's ridiculous article in today's Times in which Riddell claims that UKIP poses no threat to the Cameron-Conservatives:

In my opinion UKIP will eventually metamorphose into a English Party (English Radicals)? In any case to say the Tories have nothing to fear is nonsense. The only thing that UKIP lacks is a truly recognisable figure, given that all else will fall into place.

From: Peter Bolt of Redditch (Worcestershire).

* Riddell's article can be found in a separate thread in this section of the forum.
A BNP member recently tried to mock UKIP in my presence over the recent "Independence Party" rebrand. I asked him what the "British" in BNP would stand for, if the SNP gained power in Scotland in May. He said he "hadn't thought of that".
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Default Speak out for England and the English

UKIP should not ignore the 'English question'. It should be speaking out in defence of Englishness, the English, our land, culture and for equality with Scotland within the UK by the setting up of an English Parliament.

All europhiles hate the world 'England' or 'English'. The EU won't put the word 'England' on its official map - even though the names of Scotland and Wales are marked clearly.

Pro-EU parties such as Labour and the Liberal Dims go out of their way to avoid the 'E' word. Is UKIP going to do the same?
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I noticed the following reader's letter following Peter Riddell's ridiculous article in today's Times in which Riddell claims that UKIP poses no threat to the Cameron-Conservatives:

In my opinion UKIP will eventually metamorphose into a English Party (English Radicals)? In any case to say the Tories have nothing to fear is nonsense. The only thing that UKIP lacks is a truly recognisable figure, given that all else will fall into place.

From: Peter Bolt of Redditch (Worcestershire).

* Riddell's article can be found in a separate thread in this section of the forum.
A BNP member recently tried to mock UKIP in my presence over the recent "Independence Party" rebrand. I asked him what the "British" in BNP would stand for, if the SNP gained power in Scotland in May. He said he "hadn't thought of that".
Really? Well let me enlighten you. The BNP stands and will continue to stand for the family of British nations encompassing the English, the Irish, the Scottish and the Welsh. In the dreadful event that the SNP gained power in Scotland, and even if they became independent, the BNP would campaign within Scotland for the Union, the withdrawal from the EU and provide a voice for those Scots who wish to stand with their British cousins for the greater good. PM the e mail of this bloke and I will enlighten him too. If he exists. :roll:
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In my opinion UKIP will eventually metamorphose into a English Party (English Radicals)? In any case to say the Tories have nothing to fear is nonsense. The only thing that UKIP lacks is a truly recognisable figure, given that all else will fall into place.

From: Peter Bolt of Redditch (Worcestershire).
Snag is,
*Events* may force the Tory Party to do this as well.
Since 1997, the Conservatives [Electorally] have been on that road.

Will they beat UKIP to it?

Looks like there will be a lot of *English* parties quite soon.

[PS. Many thanks to the anonymous donor of EDP leaflets - - whoever you are.
They are very helpful.]
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Really? Well let me enlighten you. The BNP stands and will continue to stand for the family of British nations encompassing the English, the Irish, the Scottish and the Welsh. In the dreadful event that the SNP gained power in Scotland, and even if they became independent, the BNP would campaign within Scotland for the Union, the withdrawal from the EU and provide a voice for those Scots who wish to stand with their British cousins for the greater good. PM the e mail of this bloke and I will enlighten him too. If he exists. Unquote


Ha, ha, ha...priceless. I can just see the BNP trying to persuade a newly independent Scotland to crawl back into the womb, not to mention Ireland!

Strangely enough, I didn't ask your man for his email in the pub at the time, not considering it normal behaviour, but if I see him again, I'll ask him for it so a "bloke off the internet" can make him laugh.

Do you do stand-up?
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I think you should do the comedy route, more so than the political one anyhow!
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Mr. Edward Longshanks wrote: and even if they became independent, the BNP would campaign within Scotland for the Union, the withdrawal from the EU and provide a voice for those Scots who wish to stand with their British cousins for the greater good
It's just a thought, but I wonder whether all of the people of England would want Scotland back in the UK if quit it and then applied to join it again. There might be some English, Welsh and Northern Irish people in the UK who would say that the Union (of the UK) had moved on (after Scotland had voted to leave it) and that no nation which quit the Union could re-enter the UK. Hopefully Scotland won't leave the Union. But if it did, the EU and their friends the Scottish Nationalist (SNP) europhiles would do their best to stop Scotland going back into the UK.

Incidentally, a victory for the vile SNP EU-puppets in the May 2007 Scottish Parliamentary elections does not mean that Scotland would vote to quit the UK if a referendum were held on the matter there.

The chances of the SNP getting an overall majority of its own are slim. Let's hope they do badly in the forthcoming Scottish election.
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Really? Well let me enlighten you. The BNP stands and will continue to stand for the family of British nations encompassing the English, the Irish, the Scottish and the Welsh. In the dreadful event that the SNP gained power in Scotland, and even if they became independent, the BNP would campaign within Scotland for the Union, the withdrawal from the EU and provide a voice for those Scots who wish to stand with their British cousins for the greater good. PM the e mail of this bloke and I will enlighten him too. If he exists. Unquote


Ha, ha, ha...priceless. I can just see the BNP trying to persuade a newly independent Scotland to crawl back into the womb, not to mention Ireland!

Strangely enough, I didn't ask your man for his email in the pub at the time, not considering it normal behaviour, but if I see him again, I'll ask him for it so a "bloke off the internet" can make him laugh.

Do you do stand-up?
Probably more effectively than Nigel Farage.
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Mr. Edward Longshanks wrote: and even if they became independent, the BNP would campaign within Scotland for the Union, the withdrawal from the EU and provide a voice for those Scots who wish to stand with their British cousins for the greater good
It's just a thought, but I wonder whether all of the people of England would want Scotland back in the UK if quit it and then applied to join it again. There might be some English, Welsh and Northern Irish people in the UK who would say that the Union (of the UK) had moved on (after Scotland had voted to leave it) and that no nation which quit the Union could re-enter the UK. Hopefully Scotland won't leave the Union. But if it did, the EU and their friends the Scottish Nationalist (SNP) europhiles would do their best to stop Scotland going back into the UK.

Incidentally, a victory for the vile SNP EU-puppets in the May 2007 Scottish Parliamentary elections does not mean that Scotland would vote to quit the UK if a referendum were held on the matter there.

The chances of the SNP getting an overall majority of its own are slim. Let's hope they do badly in the forthcoming Scottish election.
Now that is a very viable and worthwhile point to make. Yes I believe that there would be hostility to an independent Scotland seeking to regain it's status within the UK. A parallel with this scenario would be the reunification of Germany. Resentment from what were termed the "Wessise" to the "Ossies" continues to this day, although with time it has abated. However the German Government took the steps to reunite its people and so would and should we. It won't come without some resentment, but we stand for the Union and the policy wouldn't be compromised on the alter of political expediency.
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