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Old 21-02-2007, 05:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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True.

Unless they are just building up to knock down.
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Old 21-02-2007, 08:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Being a **** head never did anyones career and harm - just ask Charles Kennedy!
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Old 22-02-2007, 01:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Having a pisshead as leader of your party never did anyone any harm; just ask the LibDems when Kennedy was leader...
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Old 22-02-2007, 03:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Is THAT really the best they can do on Nigel? That he had a few beers? Is Nigel having a few beers NEWS in any way? Didn't he do the same before being UKIP leader? I wonder what % of people can honestly say they never get drunk (saying that, I don't get drunk but then I'm strange).

I can just see the headlines now - "UKIP Leader is normal person". Well that may be news to David Cameron, I suppose.
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Old 22-02-2007, 04:20 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Yup, it is almost a compliment for the party. Perhaps we are reading too much into it and it was just a silly piece about a party leader having one too many drinks, rather than an intentional attack article?
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Old 22-02-2007, 10:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yup, it is almost a compliment for the party. Perhaps we are reading too much into it and it was just a silly piece about a party leader having one too many drinks, rather than an intentional attack article?
Exactly. Its a gossip column, not serious news reporting.

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Old 22-02-2007, 10:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The so-called Independent newspaper is an extreme europhile anti-UKIP publication. It is not in the business of giving good publicity to UKIP.

At the last EU Election, it published reasonable articles about UKIP while it received money from UKIP for election advertising in the page of the Independent newspaper. But as soon as the ballot boxes were closed and the campaign over the tone of the Independent changed back to UKIP-hostile :evil: .

When the results were declared and it was clear UKIP had secured a stunning victory in the 2004 EU Elections, the fanatically-pro EU Independent printed 14 PAGES attacking UKIP - including some very hostile stuff about UKIP on its front page.

The europhiles at the Independent have never got over the fact that their beloved pro-EU Liberal 'Democrats' could be pushed into fourth place by a relatively new anti-EU party like UKIP in the number of votes received - as they were in the last EU Election.
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As as member of a rival party it would be easy to join in and attack Farage on having a few too many. However it is such hypocrisy and cant. Why doesn't the BBC do an undercover smear story on the three old gang parties starting with an undercover recording in the House of Commons Bar. There you will see esteemed members from all three smashed out of their heads.

Just like the BNP has been smeared and continues to be so on a massive scale, this is just a taster for UKIP if they seriously start to rock the status quo.

Just be thankfull you haven't got Searchlight trying to dig dirt, stop your meetings and get your members harrassed for expressing views in a supposed democracy. But then you've got Mark Croucher to thank for that! :roll:
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The article about Mr. Farage appeared in the Pandora column of the anti-UKIP europhile Independent. The fanatically pro-EU Independent is not read by many people likely to vote UKIP. In fact it is not read by many people - period. It's circulation (which has always been low) is now far less than a decade ago.

As for Edward's comments (in the last posting to this thread) - it is true that reports of Labour MPs being so drunk in the Commons that they can't stand up have appeared.

More than one ex-Labour MP has made such claims.
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Old 22-02-2007, 07:59 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Someone pointed out to me that we wouldn't be saying the same things if Cameron or Blair was found allegedly unable to stand up due to excessive drinking in a pub somewhere. He had a point; it is somewhat unseemly.
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