Latest Poll - UKIP on 5%

rjt · 13-02-2007, 10:32 AM

I would point to the 1997 general election as a good guide.

Europe had ripped the Torys apart but the majority of people probably thought more in line with the so called sceptics than the pro eu mps.

Sceptics like Budgen, Marlow, Lamont-lost thier seats

so did EU fanatics such as Waldergrave and Freeman.

There was no discrmination as reagrds views on the EU, people thought Labour would run the economy and the public services better they were wrong but that is what they thought.

The problem for any minority party supporting EU withdrawal is

a) Make the EU a major election issue, generally this is never the case

b) Back this up with coherent domestics policys.

In otherwords have a cohrent agenda for governement

All this has to be done against the background of a media that will be hostile, continually telling people you have no chance.

Easy task really!

jp · 13-02-2007, 10:33 AM

People will vote UKIP if they think that the party has a chance in our first - past - the post electoral system.

With these sorts of percentages that tipping point cannot be far off.

I just hope & pray that opportunities, such as UKIP opposition to public funding of political parties, are fully exploited - and that there is no major outbreak of feuding in the party!

BASILDON BOY · 13-02-2007, 10:44 AM

Who takes any real notice of Polls?

The reality on the ground is UKIP are getting a **** result at the ballot box - the only poll that really counts - 8 votes and 40 votes in last 2 bye-elections.

We have another bye-election Huntingdon District Council - Warboys and Bury ward coming up so await result with interest.

rjt · 13-02-2007, 11:02 AM

Well you certianly cannot argue that the only polls that matter are the ones on polling day.

arden forester · 13-02-2007, 11:53 AM

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The question is 'why?'

Simple! UKIP is being talked about. The first basic in politics is get yourself known. Second is to have a political stance that strikes a cord with the public. Third is to have policies they can relate to. Fourth is don't squable in public. Fifth is being seen as being competent.

Whatever we say, the public seems to be less concerned as a whole with liars, cheats, and spinners unless it affects them directly.

So, as long as the "UKIP Leader" is billed as such on TV and radio, then people will come to make a decision. I think he's OK. I don't agree with everything but he is moving in the right direction. Let's see!

Populist Lee · 13-02-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

I agree. UKIP must broaden its policy base. And it must see if an agreement to avoid vote-splitting can be reached with the English Democrats (so the two parties don't run in the same wards/seats).

Perhaps tentative enquiries should be made.

I wonder how it will go *Tits* though?

Here's a clue:
UKIP has a number of Scots and people of Scots' descent as members.

prober · 13-02-2007, 01:13 PM

I cant understand why UKIP has no interest in targeting central key effort in a small No of strateguic wards in each region, learning from Bromley what needs to be done differently.

mkpdavies · 13-02-2007, 06:05 PM

Yougov have stopped asking me who I support.

So this is quite encouraging really. I think you can put this right down to all the media coverage UKIP have had lately.

Solid progress, but the reall poll will be the local elections.

Edward Longshanks · 13-02-2007, 06:33 PM

I would stay in fantasy land if I were you, whenever "real" polls occur Ukip's performance leaves a lot to be desired!

The establishment are trying to talk you up again to stop the real opposition. It won't work this time.

mkpdavies · 13-02-2007, 06:43 PM

You saying Yougov made those results up then?

13-02-2007, 06:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
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13-02-2007, 10:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,784 Party: Other	I would point to the 1997 general election as a good guide. Europe had ripped the Torys apart but the majority of people probably thought more in line with the so called sceptics than the pro eu mps. Sceptics like Budgen, Marlow, Lamont-lost thier seats so did EU fanatics such as Waldergrave and Freeman. There was no discrmination as reagrds views on the EU, people thought Labour would run the economy and the public services better they were wrong but that is what they thought. The problem for any minority party supporting EU withdrawal is a) Make the EU a major election issue, generally this is never the case b) Back this up with coherent domestics policys. In otherwords have a cohrent agenda for governement All this has to be done against the background of a media that will be hostile, continually telling people you have no chance. Easy task really!

13-02-2007, 10:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
jp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,002	People will vote UKIP if they think that the party has a chance in our first - past - the post electoral system. With these sorts of percentages that tipping point cannot be far off. I just hope & pray that opportunities, such as UKIP opposition to public funding of political parties, are fully exploited - and that there is no major outbreak of feuding in the party!

13-02-2007, 10:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 2,055	Who takes any real notice of Polls? The reality on the ground is UKIP are getting a **** result at the ballot box - the only poll that really counts - 8 votes and 40 votes in last 2 bye-elections. We have another bye-election Huntingdon District Council - Warboys and Bury ward coming up so await result with interest.

13-02-2007, 11:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,784 Party: Other	Well you certianly cannot argue that the only polls that matter are the ones on polling day.

13-02-2007, 01:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 860	I cant understand why UKIP has no interest in targeting central key effort in a small No of strateguic wards in each region, learning from Bromley what needs to be done differently.

13-02-2007, 06:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
Edward Longshanks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bucks Posts: 625	I would stay in fantasy land if I were you, whenever "real" polls occur Ukip's performance leaves a lot to be desired! The establishment are trying to talk you up again to stop the real opposition. It won't work this time.