UKIP Councillor to stand for Northern Ireland Assembly

harryaldridge · 15-02-2007, 11:44 AM

Is the Conservative party's full title not The Conservative & Unionist Party?

Unfortunately they didn't tell us that by Unionist they meant European Unionist!

arden forester · 15-02-2007, 11:54 AM

I think the word Unionist has meant different things to different Tories! Some saw it as being "One Nation" in that they were classless.

This-England · 15-02-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

I think the word Unionist has meant different things to different Tories! Some saw it as being "One Nation" in that they were classless.

The Unionists of Scotland, N Ireland, Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham had mass Working Class support right up to the the late 1960's.
The Middle Class Conservatives like Heath and Thatcher became ashamed of this support and dropped all traditional Unionist policies.

To this day a Unionist party if launched and built on the ideology of the founder of the Unionist movement Joe Chamberlain could be a massive popular force.

Populist Lee · 15-02-2007, 12:32 PM

I understand there is a National Liberal Party knocking about the place.

I wonder if a Liberal Unionist Party will appear?

This-England · 15-02-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Populist Lee

I understand there is a National Liberal Party knocking about the place.

At one point in the mid-1990's I thought the Third Way would have become an English Nationalist Party but they didnt.
I suppose National Liberalism is a logical conclusion of their movement.
But it's National Social Liberal not National Classical Liberalism which the Freedom party in Austria tried and then lost it's working class support.

Populist Lee · 15-02-2007, 12:52 PM

Yes.
I would be amazed if the NLP,TW promoted Classical Liberalism.

[I have had a quick check and a Liberal Unionist Party has popped up!]

arden forester · 15-02-2007, 02:05 PM

Liberal Unionist Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Unionist_Party
National Liberal Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...Party_%28UK%29

Liberal Unionist Party today http://www.electoralcommission.org.u...pe=partydetail
National Liberal Party today http://www.electoralcommission.org.u...pe=partydetail

These two re-incarnations would probably not attract those in the original parties!

SuperiorSteve · 16-02-2007, 04:06 PM

About time. I was gonna do it, having family in Ulster, but couldn't be arsed!!!

Good luck to him, hopefully UKIP will be able to help keep NI peaceful.

Tom Wilde · 17-02-2007, 02:50 PM

Here is a report in the Belfast Telegraph (Wed 14) about the Assembly elections:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...cle2268754.ece

Not much new information. Of UKIP, it says:

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Apart from the heavy hitters - the DUP alone fielding 46 candidates - there is a high level of Independents on both the unionist and nationalist sides.

And with increased independents potentially splitting the vote, a number of other parties - including the Conservatives, the Green Party and the UK Independence Party - will be hoping to make a breakthrough.

Britannist · 19-02-2007, 08:29 AM

The Chairman of UKIP has just visited South Down:

:arrow:
http://www.ukip.org/ukip_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=2881

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arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,763 Party: None	I think the word Unionist has meant different things to different Tories! Some saw it as being "One Nation" in that they were classless. __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com

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SuperiorSteve Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 721	About time. I was gonna do it, having family in Ulster, but couldn't be arsed!!! Good luck to him, hopefully UKIP will be able to help keep NI peaceful. __________________ "Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life" Cecil Rhodes

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Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 23,176	UKIP Chairman visits South Down The Chairman of UKIP has just visited South Down: :arrow: http://www.ukip.org/ukip_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=2881

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15-02-2007, 11:44 AM	#31 (permalink)
harryaldridge Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Sussex Posts: 1,912	Is the Conservative party's full title not The Conservative & Unionist Party? Unfortunately they didn't tell us that by Unionist they meant European Unionist!

15-02-2007, 12:32 PM	#34 (permalink)
Populist Lee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,419 Party: Other	I understand there is a National Liberal Party knocking about the place. I wonder if a Liberal Unionist Party will appear?

15-02-2007, 12:52 PM	#36 (permalink)
Populist Lee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,419 Party: Other	Yes. I would be amazed if the NLP,TW promoted Classical Liberalism. [I have had a quick check and a Liberal Unionist Party has popped up!]

15-02-2007, 02:05 PM	#37 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,763 Party: None	Liberal Unionist Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Unionist_Party National Liberal Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...Party_%28UK%29 Liberal Unionist Party today http://www.electoralcommission.org.u...pe=partydetail National Liberal Party today http://www.electoralcommission.org.u...pe=partydetail These two re-incarnations would probably not attract those in the original parties!