UKIP leader Farage backs new freedom to smoke campaign

Ted Bovis · 11-02-2007, 08:55 PM

Somebody has to define it for you, Davies. Otherwise, you would just rely on a link to Wikipedia.

Politics is not really your strong point, is it?

mkpdavies · 11-02-2007, 08:57 PM

Not when discussing with fascists no. I have to learn to ignore them.

andypandy · 11-02-2007, 09:52 PM

If it is ok for people to work in smoke-ridden work places, then where does that end? Maybe people should be able to smoke cannabis openly, and perhaps any number of otherwise socially distateful pass times?

If one chooses not to wash, or dress in a reasonably presentable manner, then that should be ok. In fact, why the need for clothes, let those who wish to go au natural do so in their place or work.

Freedom has to be viewed in terms of its immediate effect on those around them, not just a cause for its own sake.

Isn't UKIP just trying to jump onto a sinking ship?

Tom Wilde · 11-02-2007, 09:58 PM

There - I hear it again! :shock:

Tramp, tramp, tramp.

g hall · 11-02-2007, 10:02 PM

andypandy

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any number of otherwise socially distateful pass times

For example ?

andypandy · 11-02-2007, 10:04 PM

Maybe the reason YOU hear the tramp, tramp, is because YOUR ideology is closer to it than any one elses? It takes one to know one, they say!

So again, I ask, what ARE you talking about, or are you symptomatic of reason that UKIP is in the state it is today?

UKIP needs desparately to look into itself and justify some of its stand points, and dismissing criticisms in this manner is pointless.

I for one WOULD like to see a UKIP MP, there again, I would like to see the EDP get one, in either case, certainly before the BNP. But really, with these type of responses, which is the most likely?

andypandy · 11-02-2007, 10:06 PM

G Hall. such as smoking cannabis in public, being drunk, walking around naked, using deliberate and foul language, or just being generally reprehensible

Ted Bovis · 11-02-2007, 11:03 PM

So, Davies, anybody who IN YOUR OPINION might be an environmentalist is automatically a fascist.....

As I say, politics is not your strong point, (as I suspect you are very well aware)

mkpdavies · 12-02-2007, 09:51 AM

I never said that, so what made you think it, Lord only knows.

There are many fine environmentalists who aren't of the same fascist approach as yourself.

andypandy · 12-02-2007, 11:00 AM

Matt, are you sure you weren't the witch finder general in a previous life?

Dressed in that interesting outfit as per your logo, you'd make a remarkable "fascist finder general". No doubt there would be many in ther far-left and within the EU that could put your services to excellent use hunting down the enemies of globalism.

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	I never said that, so what made you think it, Lord only knows. There are many fine environmentalists who aren't of the same fascist approach as yourself. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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11-02-2007, 08:55 PM	#31 (permalink)
Ted Bovis Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 112	Somebody has to define it for you, Davies. Otherwise, you would just rely on a link to Wikipedia. Politics is not really your strong point, is it?

11-02-2007, 09:52 PM	#33 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	If it is ok for people to work in smoke-ridden work places, then where does that end? Maybe people should be able to smoke cannabis openly, and perhaps any number of otherwise socially distateful pass times? If one chooses not to wash, or dress in a reasonably presentable manner, then that should be ok. In fact, why the need for clothes, let those who wish to go au natural do so in their place or work. Freedom has to be viewed in terms of its immediate effect on those around them, not just a cause for its own sake. Isn't UKIP just trying to jump onto a sinking ship?

11-02-2007, 09:58 PM	#34 (permalink)
Tom Wilde Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London. Posts: 2,924	There - I hear it again! :shock: Tramp, tramp, tramp.

11-02-2007, 10:04 PM	#36 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	Maybe the reason YOU hear the tramp, tramp, is because YOUR ideology is closer to it than any one elses? It takes one to know one, they say! So again, I ask, what ARE you talking about, or are you symptomatic of reason that UKIP is in the state it is today? UKIP needs desparately to look into itself and justify some of its stand points, and dismissing criticisms in this manner is pointless. I for one WOULD like to see a UKIP MP, there again, I would like to see the EDP get one, in either case, certainly before the BNP. But really, with these type of responses, which is the most likely?

11-02-2007, 10:06 PM	#37 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	G Hall. such as smoking cannabis in public, being drunk, walking around naked, using deliberate and foul language, or just being generally reprehensible

11-02-2007, 11:03 PM	#38 (permalink)
Ted Bovis Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 112	So, Davies, anybody who IN YOUR OPINION might be an environmentalist is automatically a fascist..... As I say, politics is not your strong point, (as I suspect you are very well aware)

12-02-2007, 11:00 AM	#40 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	Matt, are you sure you weren't the witch finder general in a previous life? Dressed in that interesting outfit as per your logo, you'd make a remarkable "fascist finder general". No doubt there would be many in ther far-left and within the EU that could put your services to excellent use hunting down the enemies of globalism.