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Old 05-02-2007, 11:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Most people I know who dont smoke favour the ban myself included.
I don't smoke and I am firmly against the ban. It is a matter of individual choice, and not something the government should be poking its nose into. Private establishments = private rules as far as I'm concerned.
I dont support freedom for freedoms sake.
I support what makes life better for me as do most of the voters.
How does it affect you? I'd rather we kept the norm we have now - separate smoking and non-smoking sections.
Smoke makes my cloths smell and my eyes sting.
Its bad for my health too.
Thats how it effects me.
I presume therefore, that you would also like to see an end to bonfires and fireworks on the 5th of November? Perhaps also open fires in pubs and peoples homes?
No as I like Fireworks night and open fires in pubs.
I dont like smoking.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Don't go into private establishments that allow smoking then,ain't hard is it.

Next you'll want to go into strip clubs and not have to look at strippers as they offend you :shock:
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I don't like smoking.
Don't go into private establishments that allow smoking then,ain't hard is it.

Next you'll want to go into strip clubs and not have to look at strippers as they offend you :shock:
I like going into private drinking establishments but I dont like smoke.
I like going into strip clubs too and I like looking at the strippers.
Supporting Freedom for Freedoms sake is pointless.
Freedom is just the Vortex where the battle of varous politcal ideologies takes place it is not an end in itself.
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I like going into private drinking establishments but I don't like smoke.
Well go into ones that don't allow smoking.

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I like going into strip clubs too and I like looking at the strippers.
The point being if i wanted to go into strip clubs for a drink but not look at strippers i should be able to according to the ban smoking in pubs brigade :roll:

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Freedom is just the Vortex where the battle of various political ideologies takes place it is not an end in itself.
Its about choice you can choose not to go into private establishments that allow smoking and i can choose not to go into strip clubs if i don't want to see naked girls :shock:

If there was enough demand for smoke free pubs I'm sure in this free market economy we live in someone would have filled this void long ago.
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I like going into private drinking establishments but I don't like smoke.
Well go into ones that don't allow smoking.

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I like going into strip clubs too and I like looking at the strippers.
The point being if i wanted to go into strip clubs for a drink but not look at strippers i should be able to according to the ban smoking in pubs brigade :roll:

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Supporting Freedom for Freedoms sake is pointless.
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Freedom is just the Vortex where the battle of various political ideologies takes place it is not an end in itself.
Its about choice you can choose not to go into private establishments that allow smoking and i can choose not to go into strip clubs if i don't want to see naked girls :shock:

If there was enough demand for smoke free pubs I'm sure in this free market economy we live in someone would have filled this void long ago.
Precisely, you hit the proverbial nail on the head.
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I like going into private drinking establishments but I don't like smoke.
Well go into ones that don't allow smoking.

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I like going into strip clubs too and I like looking at the strippers.
The point being if i wanted to go into strip clubs for a drink but not look at strippers i should be able to according to the ban smoking in pubs brigade :roll:

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Supporting Freedom for Freedoms sake is pointless.
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Freedom is just the Vortex where the battle of various political ideologies takes place it is not an end in itself.
Its about choice you can choose not to go into private establishments that allow smoking and i can choose not to go into strip clubs if i don't want to see naked girls :shock:

If there was enough demand for smoke free pubs I'm sure in this free market economy we live in someone would have filled this void long ago.
All the pubs in my area are smoking pubs so I have little choice but to go in them.
If you want strippers banned in strip clubs launch and campaign and go for it.
The market has failed my interests as the greed of the pub owners means they want smokers to drink there and they want to sell fags.
Thus we need a law to ban it in order to improve the quality of my life.
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I like going into private drinking establishments but I don't like smoke.
Well go into ones that don't allow smoking.

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I like going into strip clubs too and I like looking at the strippers.
The point being if i wanted to go into strip clubs for a drink but not look at strippers i should be able to according to the ban smoking in pubs brigade :roll:

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Supporting Freedom for Freedoms sake is pointless.
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Freedom is just the Vortex where the battle of various political ideologies takes place it is not an end in itself.
Its about choice you can choose not to go into private establishments that allow smoking and i can choose not to go into strip clubs if i don't want to see naked girls :shock:

If there was enough demand for smoke free pubs I'm sure in this free market economy we live in someone would have filled this void long ago.
Precisely, you hit the proverbial nail on the head.
You Libertarians like the Marxists are very naive on how the Public think.
The Public vote out of self interest only.
Freedom for Freedoms sake has no appeal to the voter.
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The market has failed my interests as the greed of the pub owners means they want smokers to drink there and they want to sell fags.
Your point? It's their business, so that's their choice. If you don't like the state of play, start your own business.
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The market has failed my interests as the greed of the pub owners means they want smokers to drink there and they want to sell fags.
Your point? It's their business, so that's their choice. If you don't like the state of play, start your own business.
If I dont like the state of play ill support a party that will change it.
If you dont like it you will have to form a Libertarian party to change it back.
Freedom dosnt come for Free it has to be fought for.
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