The only issue that matters.

Niall Warry · 31-01-2007, 06:56 PM

Not one single solitary iota of any and all worthy costly time wasting posturing with policies amounts to a sack of beans. One simple utterance from the EU sets every initiative by UKIP at nought under the terms of the 1972 Act section 2 article 2.
80% of all laws, in denial of any concept of justice or democracy, inacted at Westminster is by the impostion of the EU. Even the balance 20% of our laws must be in compliance with th EU.
You all write policies and posture in a self congratulatory manner but it will be British patriots who will redeem our democratic independent sovereignty working on one the one issue that mastters.......
GETTING US OUT OF THE EU.

mkpdavies · 31-01-2007, 07:00 PM

You have to have good reasons why getting out of the EU would be good.

A full set of decent policies that couldn't be done under the EU does that.

Why don'tyou join Battle of Britain or something if you want a pressure group. UKIP has grown up and if you can't do likewise, then Battle For Britain, Bruges Group, BOO or Speak Out are the place for you.

Niall Warry · 31-01-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

You have to have good reasons why getting out of the EU would be good.

A full set of decent policies that couldn't be done under the EU does that.

Why don'tyou join Battle of Britain or something if you want a pressure group. UKIP has grown up and if you can't do likewise, then Battle For Britain, Bruges Group, BOO or Speak Out are the place for you.

I belong to the Free Nation already. I'm still in UKIP as they do stand in elections unlike the other groups you mention. I feel we should use our election muscle in a specific way and will stay in UKIP until my view prevaills as it will.

Merseyside · 31-01-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall Warry

Not one single solitary iota of any and all worthy costly time wasting posturing with policies amounts to a sack of beans. One simple utterance from the EU sets every initiative by UKIP at nought under the terms of the 1972 Act section 2 article 2.
80% of all laws, in denial of any concept of justice or democracy, inacted at Westminster is by the impostion of the EU. Even the balance 20% of our laws must be in compliance with th EU.
You all write policies and posture in a self congratulatory manner but it will be British patriots who will redeem our democratic independent sovereignty working on one the one issue that mastters.......
GETTING US OUT OF THE EU.

Are you seriously saying that the EU is the only problem in our society today? If you are then I am afraid you inhabit another planet mate!

The EU is part problem, but not the only problem. We have a major problem with crime, a poor education system, mass immigration, high taxes etc ... UKIP needs to continue developing radical stand alone policies in all of these areas. These policies will allow us to get on platforms and have more to say than lest get out of the EU. It will also change the perception that we are a bunch of nutters with an obsesive compulsive disorder with the EU.

We are on the right path and that path leads from pressure group mentality to a full a political party.

Richard Allen · 31-01-2007, 07:41 PM

Some people just don't get it.

I want our country back. Not just from the EU but also from the deceitful elite that sold us to the EU in the first place.

Getting us out of the EU is only the begining. After that we need to be able to govern our country and undo decades of damage.

mkpdavies · 31-01-2007, 07:45 PM

Nial still thinks the Tories will come good.

Niall Warry · 01-02-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Merseyside

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Originally Posted by Niall Warry

Not one single solitary iota of any and all worthy costly time wasting posturing with policies amounts to a sack of beans. One simple utterance from the EU sets every initiative by UKIP at nought under the terms of the 1972 Act section 2 article 2.
80% of all laws, in denial of any concept of justice or democracy, inacted at Westminster is by the impostion of the EU. Even the balance 20% of our laws must be in compliance with th EU.
You all write policies and posture in a self congratulatory manner but it will be British patriots who will redeem our democratic independent sovereignty working on one the one issue that mastters.......
GETTING US OUT OF THE EU.

Are you seriously saying that the EU is the only problem in our society today? If you are then I am afraid you inhabit another planet mate!

The EU is part problem, but not the only problem. We have a major problem with crime, a poor education system, mass immigration, high taxes etc ... UKIP needs to continue developing radical stand alone policies in all of these areas. These policies will allow us to get on platforms and have more to say than lest get out of the EU. It will also change the perception that we are a bunch of nutters with an obsesive compulsive disorder with the EU.

We are on the right path and that path leads from pressure group mentality to a full a political party.

DREAM ON!

Niall Warry · 01-02-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Allen

Some people just don't get it.

I want our country back. Not just from the EU but also from the deceitful elite that sold us to the EU in the first place.

Getting us out of the EU is only the begining. After that we need to be able to govern our country and undo decades of damage.

Yes but first things first - we can not govern our country until we leave the EU.

Niall Warry · 01-02-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Nial still thinks the Tories will come good.

NO I DON'T! But I do feel some kind of realignment is more likely to happen at Westminster, with the patriots of Britains help and yes UKIP's and other groups existance, before UKIP gets into power. :wink:

SGK · 01-02-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Niall Warry

You all write policies and posture in a self congratulatory manner...

I have not written a single policy. What posturing are you referring to that you have seen me make?

31-01-2007, 06:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Niall Warry Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 1,723	The only issue that matters. Not one single solitary iota of any and all worthy costly time wasting posturing with policies amounts to a sack of beans. One simple utterance from the EU sets every initiative by UKIP at nought under the terms of the 1972 Act section 2 article 2. 80% of all laws, in denial of any concept of justice or democracy, inacted at Westminster is by the impostion of the EU. Even the balance 20% of our laws must be in compliance with th EU. You all write policies and posture in a self congratulatory manner but it will be British patriots who will redeem our democratic independent sovereignty working on one the one issue that mastters....... GETTING US OUT OF THE EU.

31-01-2007, 07:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	You have to have good reasons why getting out of the EU would be good. A full set of decent policies that couldn't be done under the EU does that. Why don'tyou join Battle of Britain or something if you want a pressure group. UKIP has grown up and if you can't do likewise, then Battle For Britain, Bruges Group, BOO or Speak Out are the place for you. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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31-01-2007, 07:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Richard Allen Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 584	Some people just don't get it. I want our country back. Not just from the EU but also from the deceitful elite that sold us to the EU in the first place. Getting us out of the EU is only the begining. After that we need to be able to govern our country and undo decades of damage.