Torys drop another councilor to UKIP

This-England · 05-01-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

He's a National Socialist.

Say no more.

Im definatly not a National Socialist.

I dont support a Socialist economy I want a Corporatist economy, I have nothing against Jews, Slavs or Gypsys and I support Parliamentry Democracy.

Im Nationalist.

Hartlepool · 05-01-2007, 11:49 AM

Are you always so direct mkp?

mkpdavies · 05-01-2007, 11:52 AM

I tell is how it is. This-England is a National Socialist. He supports protectionism and wealth distribution. He pays lip service to companies, while in reality would heavily regulate everything they and people could do.

Mikeuk · 07-01-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoreEUSSR

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Originally Posted by This-England

Libertarianism is nearly as bad as Socialism a very dangerous anti-British ideology indeed.

How do you define libertarian? To me, libertarianism is the belief in a small state and the philosophy of the primary rôle of the state being to protect one from violence at the hands of others. What's so dangerous about that?

Historically, variants of libertarianism (ideological rather than philosophical) can come close to anarchism.

These days I would say that most libertarians are essentially old-fashioned liberal who believe that all actions should be permitted unless they cause injury to others.

The problem is that some libertarians' definition of 'injury' is more wide-ranging than others.

This-England · 07-01-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I tell is how it is. This-England is a National Socialist. He supports protectionism and wealth distribution. He pays lip service to companies, while in reality would heavily regulate everything they and people could do.

Typical One Nation Conservative possition then.

Richard Allen · 07-01-2007, 09:44 PM

I think that there is some confusion here. Many traditional conservatives have libertarian leanings such as a a belief in a small state, low taxation, support for historic liberties, etc. This is very different to out and out libertarianism which is pretty close to anarchism. UKIP is moving in a slightly libertarian direction but certainly not to an extreme extent.

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	Are you always so direct mkp?

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Richard Allen Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 569	I think that there is some confusion here. Many traditional conservatives have libertarian leanings such as a a belief in a small state, low taxation, support for historic liberties, etc. This is very different to out and out libertarianism which is pretty close to anarchism. UKIP is moving in a slightly libertarian direction but certainly not to an extreme extent.