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Old 27-12-2006, 02:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Disinfo and identifying a Disinformationalist...

As the UKIP is now seen as a political force dangerous to Blue Labour at least, be prepared for some very professional and subtle attacks.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Don't grind your wheels and allow yourself to be distracted when they attack. My next post will give you the specific rules in detail to quote when replying to such posters.

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Note: There are other ways to attack truth,
but these listed are the most common, and others
are likely derivatives of these. In the end, you
can usually spot the professional disinfo players
by one or more of eight distinct traits:


Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss
issues head-on or provide constructive input,
generally avoiding citation of references or
credentials. Rather, they merely imply this,
that, and the other. Virtually everything about
their presentation implies their authority and
expert knowledge in the matter without any
further justification for credibility.

2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose
opponents carefully, either applying the
hit-and-run approach against mere commentators
supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier
attacks on key opponents who are known to
directly address issues. Should a commentator
become argumentative with any success, the
focus will shift to include the commentator
as well.

3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly
and somewhat coincidentally with a new
controversial topic with no clear prior record
of participation in general discussions in the
particular public arena involved. They likewise
tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of
general concern. They were likely directed or
elected to be there for a reason, and vanish
with the reason.

4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in
self-congratulatory and complementary packs or
teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in
any public forum, but there will likely be an
ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this
sort where professionals are involved.
Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate
the opponent camp to become a source for straw
man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent
presentation strength.

5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always
have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists'
and, usually, for those who in any way believe
JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why,
if they hold such disdain for conspiracy
theorists, do they focus on defending a single
topic discussed in a forum focusing on conspiracies?
One might think they would either be trying to
make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply
ignore the group they hold in such disdain.
Or, one might more rightly conclude they have
an ulterior motive for their actions in going
out of their way to focus as they do.

6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial'
emotionalism and an unusually thick skin --
an ability to persevere and persist even in
the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance.
This likely stems from intelligence community training
that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny
everything, and never become emotionally involved
or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist
is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people,
if responding in anger, for instance, will express
their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But
disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining
the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to
pretended emotions and their usually more calm
or unemotional communications style. It's just
a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their
role in character' as well in a communications
medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face
conversation/confrontation. You might have outright
rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next,
and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With
respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of
criticism will deter them from doing their job,
and they will generally continue their old
disinfo patterns without any adjustments to
criticisms of how obvious it is that they play
that game -- where a more rational individual
who truly cares what others think might seek
to improve their communications style,
substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency
to make mistakes which betray their true
self/motives. This may stem from not really
knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat
'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they
really root for the side of truth deep within.
I have noted that often, they will simply cite
contradictory information which neutralizes
itself and the author. For instance, one such
player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed
his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar,
incoherent style) on having only a grade-school
education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots
who don't have a college degree. Another claimed
no knowledge of a particular topic/situation
but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

BONUS TRAIT:
8 ) Time Constant. Recently discovered,
with respect to forums, is the response time
factor. There are three ways this can be seen to
work, especially when the government or other
empowered player is involved in a cover up operation:

8.1) ANY forum posting by a targeted proponent for truth
can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government
and other empowered players can afford to pay people
to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some
damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A FORUM ONLY WORKS IF THE
READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the
visitor may be swayed towards truth.

8.2) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist,
such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be
a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down
team discussion on response strategy for best effect,
and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction
from a formal chain of command. 3) In the forum venue, it
will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns
are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay -
the team approach in play. This is especially true
when the targeted truth seeker or their comments
are considered more important with respect to
potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth
sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.
(Just in case you wondered about the BNP, well the BNP are national socialists and thus were infiltrated years ago by the UK domestic intelligence agency and so are no threat to anyone except those moronic enough to be taken in by Nick Griffin or to believe that a racist socialist party is a good thing.

Those useful idiots deserve what they will get from association with BNP. There is very little need for disinfo to be used against them by the professionals as the BNP are so repulsive on their face, but do expect some of those who have infiltrated the BNP and maybe some of the genuine scum higher up in the BNP to use disinfo against the UKIP.)
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Old 29-12-2006, 04:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. Those rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key player, or planning level.

RULE

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just isn't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed
with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which
concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.

25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
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Is this the new ultra-secret handbook given to organisers of a certain political party that the Guardian were on about with blueprints to gas chambers and a middle page pull out of Adolf Hitler to put above the fire place that they forgot to mention because they are completely incompetent?
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Is this the new ultra-secret handbook given to organisers of a certain political party that the Guardian were on about with blueprints to gas chambers and a middle page pull out of Adolf Hitler to put above the fire place that they forgot to mention because they are completely incompetent?
You can bet some of them are printing this thread out to try and use it. But no, it's the Blue labour and NuLabour machines that have the brains and experience to use these techniques effectively, so watch out.
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More importantly, it is the civil service which uses a lot of those tricks, and others. Its posted and written about elsewhere, but not many are wise to it.
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What tat! Information like this will only make you paranoid!

I wouldn't read between every line!
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What tat! Information like this will only make you paranoid!

I wouldn't read between every line!
Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Blue Labour in particular are more and more intimidated by UKIP and ready to fight dirty.
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There is no doubt UKIP has to contend with black ops from a number of different angles.

Par for the course I would have thought.
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