'RESIGNATIONS PUT LOCAL UKIP IN TURMOIL' (SOUTHEND)

Internationalist · 22-12-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Hello English Democrat 8) . I noticed the other day that you had not posted to the forum much in the last week or so. Obviously, like many of us, you're busy with preparations for Christmas.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

He promised not to post until the New Year but obviously could not resist the temptation. :shock:

Anyway, welcome back ED.

Internationalist · 22-12-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

I think I read somewhere that the Electoral Commission won't let UKIP register as the Independence Party because it claims voters might get confused between UKIP (under the name of 'Independence Party') and actual independent candidates not aligned to any political party. I do not know how accurate this is (i.e. if the Electoral Commission really did object).

That sounds plausible as there are various names that are ineligible under the legislation, including (bizarrely) the 'None of the Above Party'.

Britannist · 22-12-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unionist

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Originally Posted by Britannist

I think I read somewhere that the Electoral Commission won't let UKIP register as the Independence Party because it claims voters might get confused between UKIP (under the name of 'Independence Party') and actual independent candidates not aligned to any political party. I do not know how accurate this is (i.e. if the Electoral Commission really did object).

That sounds plausible as there are various names that are ineligible under the legislation, including (bizarrely) the 'None of the Above Party'.

I've got a feeling that the 'None of the Above' party may have been prohibited from securing registration because it could attract about ten million votes :shock: :twisted: .

tamashi · 22-12-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex McKee

If the party made an official, comprehensive style guide available we would be in a much better position.

Carefull Alex!

Thin end of the wedge and all that.

You can't be suggesting you're in favour of the control freaks in the leadership cabal imposing things like this.

Every member would need to be consulted on any change to Logo or colours, probably via a full debate at the next Conference. After this every suggestion would have to be included into the final mix. If you didn't include everyone's personnal favourite then you'd have people leaving the party in protest and if any discipline was imposed then even more would leave.

tamashi · 22-12-2006, 11:34 PM

UK INDEPENDENCE PARTY

tamashi · 22-12-2006, 11:43 PM

I dont know how to insert pictures here but how about alternative logo as a map of the UK with UK INDEPENDENCE PARY written accross it with UK and PARTY in small letters and INDEPENDENCE in big[/url]

Martin Harvey · 22-12-2006, 11:59 PM

I do understand the problems that Brian Lee and Ken Bennett had with the leadership, but to desert their loyal members in this way is treasonable. To join the English Democrats who stand pointlessly against UKIP in some seats is unforgivable. For the EDs to stand against the Party that is now making serious progress on the Political scene, brings their true motive into question, and for Brian and Ken to join them leads one to question their real agenda.
I have been in touch with the branch, their is no 'Turmoil' in UKIP there, but I would imagine that Brian's and Ken's consciences will be in turmoil for a long time.
Martin Harvey

michael mcgough · 23-12-2006, 12:12 AM

Well said Martin.We all know UKIP ain't perfect but why jump ship as the tide is turning we're winning the arguments AND gaining incredible publicity.We are still the only show in town.All those who have left are in no man's land and stifled.I questioned Brian Lee's judgement when he said that all that was required of a party treasurer was to know the price of a loaf of bread.Sadly he's a loaf short of a picnic.

Johnny Hates Jazz · 23-12-2006, 12:27 AM

Started a new job/contract on 4 December 2006

On holiday for Christmas now !

kernow · 23-12-2006, 03:10 AM

Why on earth do you lot want to change the name of the party? It's taken years to get people to recognise the brand name, now you want to change the name thinking it will win more votes :roll: I can just see "Joe Public" saying to his missus "Jill" "'ear I see UKIPs changed It's name, they must be good if they can do that! Lets vote for them"!

View Poll Results: The main reason that UKIP is a failing party...
Its name	2	4.08%
The poor leadership of Nigel Farage, the 'real leader' of UKIP for years	11	22.45%
The party's failure to develop a broad range of policies	5	10.20%
Its reputation as a bunch of right-wing nutters and fruitcakes	4	8.16%
The various failings of its MEPs	3	6.12%
Some other reason	1	2.04%
UKIP is NOT a failing party	23	46.94%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

22-12-2006, 11:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Martin Harvey Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Essex Posts: 167	RESIGNATIONS PUT LOCAL UKIP IN TURMOIL (SOUTHEND) I do understand the problems that Brian Lee and Ken Bennett had with the leadership, but to desert their loyal members in this way is treasonable. To join the English Democrats who stand pointlessly against UKIP in some seats is unforgivable. For the EDs to stand against the Party that is now making serious progress on the Political scene, brings their true motive into question, and for Brian and Ken to join them leads one to question their real agenda. I have been in touch with the branch, their is no 'Turmoil' in UKIP there, but I would imagine that Brian's and Ken's consciences will be in turmoil for a long time. Martin Harvey

23-12-2006, 12:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,129 Party: English Democrats	Started a new job/contract on 4 December 2006 On holiday for Christmas now ! __________________ *English Democrats SAY NO* To European Union ENGLISH NOT british** not EUropean *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

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22-12-2006, 11:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
tamashi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 523	UK INDEPENDENCE PARTY

22-12-2006, 11:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
tamashi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 523	I dont know how to insert pictures here but how about alternative logo as a map of the UK with UK INDEPENDENCE PARY written accross it with UK and PARTY in small letters and INDEPENDENCE in big[/url]

23-12-2006, 12:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 1,254	Well said Martin.We all know UKIP ain't perfect but why jump ship as the tide is turning we're winning the arguments AND gaining incredible publicity.We are still the only show in town.All those who have left are in no man's land and stifled.I questioned Brian Lee's judgement when he said that all that was required of a party treasurer was to know the price of a loaf of bread.Sadly he's a loaf short of a picnic.

23-12-2006, 03:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,288	Why on earth do you lot want to change the name of the party? It's taken years to get people to recognise the brand name, now you want to change the name thinking it will win more votes :roll: I can just see "Joe Public" saying to his missus "Jill" "'ear I see UKIPs changed It's name, they must be good if they can do that! Lets vote for them"!