Correct description of a EU hater

kernow · 05-12-2006, 01:06 AM

In letters to the press, how would you describe yourself if you hated the EU and wanted your Country to withdraw from the EU?

Anthony Butcher · 05-12-2006, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kernow

In letters to the press, how would you describe yourself if you hated the EU and wanted your Country to withdraw from the EU?

I would avoid any labels if at all possible - it is far too easy to be dismissed once you have been pigeon holed.

Britannist · 05-12-2006, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kernow

In letters to the press, how would you describe yourself if you hated the EU and wanted your Country to withdraw from the EU?

I would say that I was a campaigner for freedom (i.e. from the authoritarian Blair ID card database) and that I was pro-sovereignty (i.e. politicians gave to the EU something that was not theirs to give - British parliamentary powers - and I want them brought back to stay here permenently).

Pro-freedom. Pro-sovereignty. Pro-referendums. 8)

rogerthomas · 06-12-2006, 12:15 AM

A foot soldier in the battle for independence.

Colin McNamee · 06-12-2006, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kernow

In letters to the press, how would you describe yourself if you hated the EU and wanted your Country to withdraw from the EU?

Would not be associated with description 'hated'. I don't. Such a strong emotion clouds judgement and does nothing to keep clearly focussed.

Eurorealist.

Hartlepool · 06-12-2006, 09:22 AM

An anti-EU activist.

kernow · 06-12-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Colin McNamee

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Would not be associated with description 'hated'. I don't. Such a strong emotion clouds judgement and does nothing to keep clearly focussed.

OK Colin I'll rephrase it, "I dislike the EU and all it stands for intensely"? Eurorealist sounds too pro EU for my liking, it sounds as if you are saying, "the EU would be OK if it got it's act together"

Colin McNamee · 06-12-2006, 10:38 AM

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OK Colin I'll rephrase it, "I dislike the EU and all it stands for intensely"? Eurorealist sounds too pro EU for my liking, it sounds as if you are saying, "the EU would be OK if it got it's act together"[/quote]

That is eurosceptic! - believes in the EU and wants to change it from within.

Many of the electorate during the 05 GE who I met in East Devon, and seperately who live in my locallity, actually understood that eurosceptic was anti EU. It was this misunderstanding that assisted Conservatives Hugo Swire, East Devon and David Heathcoat Amory, Wells (Somerset), to gain votes.

Unless the position of Conservative, in particular, sitting MP's is completely clear and they are made to clarify what eurosceptic means to them then they will continue to attract votes - for the wrong reasons.

On a public platform in Axminster at an 05 hustings I listened to Hugo Swire publicly state 'there is very little difference between Colin's position and mine regarding the EU.' Both he and the audience were left in doubt by my answer on our relative EU positions.

Hugo Swire in now on Dave Cameron's front bench, hardly the place for some-one who wants to withdraw from the EU ! (according to Dave).

This is about more than pedantry.

kernow · 06-12-2006, 12:00 PM

Put your way Colin, Eurosceptic does sound like the Tory stance,

ops: but I still maintain Eurorealist sounds pro EU! So I think in future letters I'll just say as Hartlepool said, "Anti-EU"!

devilskitchen · 07-12-2006, 08:24 PM

I like the phrase EUnihilist: I think that the EU should not exist, full stop.

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kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	Correct description of a EU hater In letters to the press, how would you describe yourself if you hated the EU and wanted your Country to withdraw from the EU?

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Colin McNamee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 894	Re: Correct description of a EU hater [/quote] OK Colin I'll rephrase it, "I dislike the EU and all it stands for intensely"? Eurorealist sounds too pro EU for my liking, it sounds as if you are saying, "the EU would be OK if it got it's act together"[/quote] That is eurosceptic! - believes in the EU and wants to change it from within. Many of the electorate during the 05 GE who I met in East Devon, and seperately who live in my locallity, actually understood that eurosceptic was anti EU. It was this misunderstanding that assisted Conservatives Hugo Swire, East Devon and David Heathcoat Amory, Wells (Somerset), to gain votes. Unless the position of Conservative, in particular, sitting MP's is completely clear and they are made to clarify what eurosceptic means to them then they will continue to attract votes - for the wrong reasons. On a public platform in Axminster at an 05 hustings I listened to Hugo Swire publicly state 'there is very little difference between Colin's position and mine regarding the EU.' Both he and the audience were left in doubt by my answer on our relative EU positions. Hugo Swire in now on Dave Cameron's front bench, hardly the place for some-one who wants to withdraw from the EU ! (according to Dave). This is about more than pedantry.

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devilskitchen Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 419	I like the phrase EUnihilist: I think that the EU should not exist, full stop. __________________ Unio Europaea delenda est

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rogerthomas Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gwent Posts: 89	A foot soldier in the battle for independence.

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,814 Party: Popular Democrats	An anti-EU activist.

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kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	Put your way Colin, Eurosceptic does sound like the Tory stance, ops: but I still maintain Eurorealist sounds pro EU! So I think in future letters I'll just say as Hartlepool said, "Anti-EU"!