UKIP on the environment

euromutiny · 30-11-2006, 06:30 PM

I note UKIP is taking a sceptical view of global warming. While I welcome the party not taking the "tax 'em off the road" consensus, and a more cautious approach to their scaremongering, what actually is ukip policy?

For example I do not want to vote for a party happy to see ever more pollution, supports new nuclear power and is in favour of ever more road building, house building etc. Nor do I want to elect a party that wants to tax us to death just for using our cars, going on holiday etc.

Westcountryman · 30-11-2006, 10:20 PM

What's wrong with nuclear power?

Colin McNamee · 30-11-2006, 10:39 PM

euromutiny
During the last GE I met a young woman, well educated, well spoken and articulate, whilst I was canvassing in Devon.

She was against the UK membership of the EU, agreed with everything regarding other UKIP policies and the final killer question she had was would UKIP be against fox hunting? On that one issue alone, UKIP policy by local county determination was not sufficient, she would not support UKIP.

If any-one seriously thinks that they can find any political party with which they can totally agree with everything, apart from forming their own party, good luck - 'cos it doesn't exist.

ModernTory
What's wrong with nuclear power? Potentially a lot. However without a proven viable alternative as to realiability to meet consumption it, along with clean burn coal fired stations, is the best we've got.

Use less electricity, at least that's a positive start.

That is, I agree with the inference of your question :wink:

Hartlepool · 01-12-2006, 09:03 AM

When someone goes on about the safety of Nuclear Power Stations,I quietly ask them ,when was the last time they had a serious accident.

Fifty odd years on and the influence of people demonstrating against NPSs is still around.

There is no threat or danger from NPSs,we have to have them,at least 30 at the rate we waste energy at the moment.

g hall · 01-12-2006, 06:27 PM

As regards Nuclear power France gets about 80% from nuclear (and don't we buy some) what's their track record like?

mkpdavies · 01-12-2006, 06:32 PM

Done very well out of it.

Self sufficient and get to hold the rod over others.

Nuclear should be part of the solution, if not all of it.

Hartlepool · 01-12-2006, 06:44 PM

Oil and gas have but two enemies,the first one is Nuclear,the second is.all those people who support Nuclear.

That's it folks,and nothing else.

kernow · 02-12-2006, 01:01 AM

[quote="Colin McNamee"]
If any-one seriously thinks that they can find any political party with which they can totally agree with everything, apart from forming their own party, good luck - 'cos it doesn't exist.

I agree!

ModernTory
What's wrong with nuclear power? Potentially a lot. However without a proven viable alternative as to realiability to meet consumption it, along with clean burn coal fired stations, is the best we've got.

quote]
Agreed!

Soddball · 02-12-2006, 09:30 AM

I think UKIP should be promoting individual self-sufficiency - microgeneration.

BASILDON BOY · 02-12-2006, 11:08 AM

This is why UKIP needs a well thought out coherant policy.

Its no good spouting global warming is a fairy tale just to grab some headlines if we have no substance to our own environmental policy.

30-11-2006, 06:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
euromutiny Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37	UKIP on the environment I note UKIP is taking a sceptical view of global warming. While I welcome the party not taking the "tax 'em off the road" consensus, and a more cautious approach to their scaremongering, what actually is ukip policy? For example I do not want to vote for a party happy to see ever more pollution, supports new nuclear power and is in favour of ever more road building, house building etc. Nor do I want to elect a party that wants to tax us to death just for using our cars, going on holiday etc.

30-11-2006, 10:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	What's wrong with nuclear power? __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

01-12-2006, 06:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,053 Party: Libertarian Party	Done very well out of it. Self sufficient and get to hold the rod over others. Nuclear should be part of the solution, if not all of it. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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30-11-2006, 10:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Colin McNamee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 894	euromutiny During the last GE I met a young woman, well educated, well spoken and articulate, whilst I was canvassing in Devon. She was against the UK membership of the EU, agreed with everything regarding other UKIP policies and the final killer question she had was would UKIP be against fox hunting? On that one issue alone, UKIP policy by local county determination was not sufficient, she would not support UKIP. If any-one seriously thinks that they can find any political party with which they can totally agree with everything, apart from forming their own party, good luck - 'cos it doesn't exist. ModernTory What's wrong with nuclear power? Potentially a lot. However without a proven viable alternative as to realiability to meet consumption it, along with clean burn coal fired stations, is the best we've got. Use less electricity, at least that's a positive start. That is, I agree with the inference of your question :wink:

01-12-2006, 09:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,814 Party: Popular Democrats	When someone goes on about the safety of Nuclear Power Stations,I quietly ask them ,when was the last time they had a serious accident. Fifty odd years on and the influence of people demonstrating against NPSs is still around. There is no threat or danger from NPSs,we have to have them,at least 30 at the rate we waste energy at the moment.

01-12-2006, 06:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: erewhon Posts: 5,581	As regards Nuclear power France gets about 80% from nuclear (and don't we buy some) what's their track record like?

01-12-2006, 06:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,814 Party: Popular Democrats	Oil and gas have but two enemies,the first one is Nuclear,the second is.all those people who support Nuclear. That's it folks,and nothing else.

02-12-2006, 01:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	[quote="Colin McNamee"] If any-one seriously thinks that they can find any political party with which they can totally agree with everything, apart from forming their own party, good luck - 'cos it doesn't exist. I agree! ModernTory What's wrong with nuclear power? Potentially a lot. However without a proven viable alternative as to realiability to meet consumption it, along with clean burn coal fired stations, is the best we've got. quote] Agreed!

02-12-2006, 09:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
Soddball Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272	I think UKIP should be promoting individual self-sufficiency - microgeneration.

02-12-2006, 11:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,819	This is why UKIP needs a well thought out coherant policy. Its no good spouting global warming is a fairy tale just to grab some headlines if we have no substance to our own environmental policy.